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AVRO Project 621 and 621 Trainer - FSX port over uploaded!

nigel richards said:
Hmmm...perhaps more or less 3 years of 12/7 spent on the AVROs has something to do with it, Downwind.
12/7 that is, except when my off-grid power system decides to head South :-(

That, and a PHENOMENAL team of Beta testers!!!

Now I hear the voices: "Go West Young man, GO WEST!"...

:running:
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What has impressed me is the level of detail of the gmax model ( which he graciously sent me for my own use) - it has 60,000 plus polys & how it managed to compile (plus the animations) that lot I don't know - I usually am lucky to exceed 30,000 plus animations for each interior & exterior - & the detail of his textures & artistry - yes I know he is essentially an artist for want of a word I cannot remember:-( , but has shown what can be done if one is patient. May many more suns shine on this & future work.
Beta testing is easy - very easy to find fault, not always easy to correct by the creator. Then there is the FDE - James has done a fantastic job & again criticism is very easy.
In awe
Keith
 
Hi blanston,
I'm glad that they work well for you.
My settings should only be a rough template.
You can change them easily to your conception.
 
A_w_e_s_o_m_e_

He seguido con entusiasmo el desarrollo de este plano, ahora podemos contemplarlo como un trabajo arduo para el disfrute del resto, no hay otra solución de la comunidad que decirte que has hecho un trabajo espectacular y que mereces Que muchos aviones de pago se ruborizan al ver este modelo.
 
Dev One said:
The FSX native really comes alive especially with the shadows, although there is a funny shadow on the rudder at times. This is in FSX SP2 & more marked on the civil version.
Keith
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Do Nigel's original FSX port-over versions (not the FSX native versions) cause this anomaly also ?

I will not be able to try the FSX native versions on my FSX SP2 system for another day, at least, as I'm away ATM.
 
He seguido con entusiasmo el desarrollo de este plano, ahora podemos contemplarlo como un trabajo arduo para el disfrute del resto, no hay otra solución de la comunidad que decirte que has hecho un trabajo espectacular y que mereces Que muchos aviones de pago se ruborizan al ver este modelo.
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As one who speaks both Spanish, French, and English natively, I thought I'd quickly translate these comments for the sake of both the SOH community in general, and Nigel in particular:

Having enthusiastically followed the development of this aircraft, this huge personal effort can now be enjoyed by the rest of us. The only real worthy response from this community is to express how spectacular a job you've done, and your work deserves recognition on par with payware models.

I certainly echo those comments, and affirm how much fun I've had and will continue to have with this. I might even get the seaplane models when they're done, even though I'm not inclined that way, as work this lovely deserves to be enjoyed.

Thanks again,

dl
 
He seguido con entusiasmo el desarrollo de este plano, ahora podemos contemplarlo como un trabajo arduo para el disfrute del resto, no hay otra solución de la comunidad que decirte que has hecho un trabajo espectacular y que mereces Que muchos aviones de pago se ruborizan al ver este modelo.
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As one who speaks both Spanish, French, and English natively, I thought I'd quickly translate these comments for the sake of both the SOH community in general, and Nigel in particular:

Having enthusiastically followed the development of this aircraft, this huge personal effort can now be enjoyed by the rest of us. The only real worthy response from this community is to express how spectacular a job you've done, and acknowledge your work deserves recognition on par with payware models.

I certainly echo those comments, and affirm how much fun I've had and will continue to have with this. I might even get the seaplane models when they're done, even though I'm not inclined that way, as work this lovely deserves to be enjoyed.

Thanks again,

dl
 
MZee1960 said:
Do Nigel's original FSX port-over versions (not the FSX native versions) cause this anomaly also ?

I will not be able to try the FSX native versions on my FSX SP2 system for another day, at least, as I'm away ATM.
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Just checked with the aerobatic team Tutor as a portover in FSX SP2 & no, the aircraft does not create shadows on itself although ticked in the options, it only appears to darken the sides away from the sun or have a reflection towards the sun. Shadows do appear on the ground. No indication of any anomaly on the rudder or fin when rotated horizontally.
Keith
 
I Can't Get Started With You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyAoTLJAHOk

I've tried every which way (including following the steps in the picture) but I can't start the Tutor without using CTRL+E.

I'm sure I must be missing something but I can't think what?????

The propeller cranks but the engine won't fire. Fuel is definitely on and mixture at 100%.

This is in FSX-SP II.

Can anyone suggest where I'm going wrong?
 
A little granny egg sucking I know, but have you checked there is fuel in the tank? I've been caught out that way before now. Maybe the battery is off from a previous type with a key command allocated? Try starting with a different a/c and then changing to the Avro, closing down manually (switches, fuel, mags etc) and then following the starting procedure.
 
I just checked in SP2 - fuel on, primer (optional), LH Run Ignition switch mag tumblers to ON, RH Start mag tumbler ON, then hold mouse click on the handle so that it rotates fully when it should then fire. Switch start mag to OFF (optional).

Keith
 
You have to keep the left mouse button pressed on the starting handle until the engine fires it takes a few turns before the engine catches.
 
dhasdell said:
A little granny egg sucking I know, but have you checked there is fuel in the tank? I've been caught out that way before now. Maybe the battery is off from a previous type with a key command allocated? Try starting with a different a/c and then changing to the Avro, closing down manually (switches, fuel, mags etc) and then following the starting procedure.
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Always ready for egg sucking lessons as too often I find I have hard boiled them first which doesn't help. The "battery off" thing was an initial thought but in the Avro it appears to be mapped to the starting magneto so it wasn't that.

HOWEVER, I did try starting another aircraft (the AH Bulldog), shutting that down and then switching to the Avro. Then it works! Many thanks for the thought. I'll shut the Avro down and save it in a flight as a starting point; that should fix it.

Thanks again for the assist.:applause::applause:
 
[QUOTE = delta_lima; 1170928] Como alguien que habla español, francés e inglés de forma nativa, pensé que traduciría rápidamente estos comentarios por el bien de la comunidad SOH en general y de Nigel en particular:

Habiendo seguido con entusiasmo el desarrollo De este avión, este gran esfuerzo personal ahora puede ser disfrutado por el resto de nosotros. La única respuesta realmente valiosa de esta comunidad es expresar cuán espectacular ha sido el trabajo que ha realizado, y su trabajo merece un reconocimiento a la par con los modelos de software de pago.

Ciertamente me hago eco de esos comentarios y afirmo lo divertido que me he divertido y lo seguiré haciendo con esto. Puede que incluso obtenga los modelos de hidroaviones cuando estén listos, aunque no estoy inclinado de esa manera, ya que este trabajo merece ser disfrutado.

Gracias de nuevo,

dl [/ QUOTE]


I'm sorry I forgot to go through the translator, thanks for doing it for mebangheadbangheadbanghead
I'm sorry I forgot to go through the translator, thanks for doing it for me
 
Dev One said:
Just checked with the aerobatic team Tutor as a portover in FSX SP2 & no, the aircraft does not create shadows on itself although ticked in the options, it only appears to darken the sides away from the sun or have a reflection towards the sun. Shadows do appear on the ground. No indication of any anomaly on the rudder or fin when rotated horizontally.
Keith
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Thanks for checking, Keith.

I think I have the 'aircraft casts shadows on itself' box unchecked in FSX, on a recommendation I found somewhere years ago, in one of those 'maximizing frame rates' threads. I have never revisited this setting since. I will check my setting when I get back, regardless, now that you've piqued my curiosity.
 
Dev One said:
What has impressed me is the level of detail of the gmax model ( which he graciously sent me for my own use) - it has 60,000 plus polys & how it managed to compile (plus the animations) that lot I don't know - I usually am lucky to exceed 30,000 plus animations for each interior & exterior - & the detail of his textures & artistry - yes I know he is essentially an artist for want of a word I cannot remember:-( , but has shown what can be done if one is patient. May many more suns shine on this & future work.
Beta testing is easy - very easy to find fault, not always easy to correct by the creator. Then there is the FDE - James has done a fantastic job & again criticism is very easy.
In awe
Keith
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Keith: Thank YOU my friend - I am hugely indebted to you for your gracious and ever methodical wisdom, Sir :)
 
johnwillimas2 said:
Always ready for egg sucking lessons as too often I find I have hard boiled them first which doesn't help. The "battery off" thing was an initial thought but in the Avro it appears to be mapped to the starting magneto so it wasn't that.

HOWEVER, I did try starting another aircraft (the AH Bulldog), shutting that down and then switching to the Avro. Then it works! Many thanks for the thought. I'll shut the Avro down and save it in a flight as a starting point; that should fix it.

Thanks again for the assist.:applause::applause:
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Hello John, forgetting to set 'RICH' mixture usually catches me out during manual start ups :-(
 
Reply...

Nigel and team,

Because I had done this for the Avro Tutor, I also tried as an experiment the same technique for the Avro 621 and 621 Trainer. As a test, I used the ClickTeam software to create auto-installers for the FSX port over and FS9 packages. These are a self-extracting .exe file that does the following.

FSX Avro 621 port-over: 160.03MB down to 76.4MB.
FSX Avro 621 trainer port-over: 154.87MB down to 79.7MB.

FS 2004 Avro 621: 138.03MB down to 69.1MB.
FS 2004 Avro 621 trainer: 129.83MB down to 72.8MB.

Would you like to test them to possibly replace the originals?
 
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