Vertigo Studios P36 Hawk Released.

[jankees]

Progress is slow, it's an...interesting paintkit....

Still WiP:

I wish somebody would cut that grass, holiday for 3 weeks and the place looks like a jungle....

 

[jankees]

some more progress:

slowly getting there...

 

[bruce448]

Looking dirty sorry I meant Good.

Bruce

 

[jankees]

I still need to sort a few details on the underside, but this is what the next paint will look like from above:

and some more work done:

any comments?

 

[huub vink]

Without any doubt "jongblad" and "oudblad". The triangles on the wings are a bit small, but I assume that's because the textures stretches a bit over the rudder. But are you sure the Dutch Hawks had these triangles on their wings?

Appreciated,
Huub

 

[jankees]

it gets worse...
I found the same pic but even better quality, and indeed, no triangles on the wings, but I also see I have the camouflage pattern all wrong. I adopted the british pattern for lack of good pics, but no longer....and the black edges on the triangles are much thicker..

OK, back to the drawingboard....

I wonder about the underside though, do you have any pics?

edit: the plot thickens...it seems they were bare metal below!

 

[bruce448]

it gets worse...
I found the same pic but even better quality, and indeed, no triangles on the wings, but I also see I have the camouflage pattern all wrong. I adopted the british pattern for lack of good pics, but no longer....and the black edges on the triangles are much thicker..

OK, back to the drawingboard....

I wonder about the underside though, do you have any pics?

edit: the plot thickens...it seems they were bare metal below!

does this help?

View attachment 14587

Bruce

 

[huub vink]

Jan Kees, I haven't been able to find a picture of a Dutch H-75 which clearly shows the underside. However based on pictures from Buffalos and Curtiss CW22 aircrafts I assume they had orange triangles on the lower side of the wings. These should be in the middle from the wings and not at the location where the British had their nationality markings.

The black border around the orange nationality marking was 10 cm in width.

I hope this helps,

Cheers,
Huub

 

[jankees]

Thanks guys, I found some additional info too, it's going to look great, just you wait and see.
First, I'm off to bed...

 

[jankees]

There we are once more..

After some additional research:
The Hawks were originally delivered in bare metal, and equipped with 6 orange triangles and rudder.
After the occupation of the Netherlands in may 1940, it was decided to camouflage all dutch aircraft in the East Indies, starting with the Glenn Martin Bombers.
After experimenting, it was decided to use a camouflage pattern in two colours of dark green, called 'jongblad' (young leaves) and 'oudblad' (old leaves), with light grey below.
The Hawks received a similar coat of camouflage paint, covering the top surfaces, and the entire fuselage, aa well as the undersides of the wingtips and the leading edge of the wings. The underside was left bare metal. The nationality markings (6 orange triangles and rudder) remained as they were for the moment, but between september and october 1940, the markings on the rudder and the top of the wings were overpainted.
So, there we have it, I believe.
After october 1940, the aircraft may have looked something like this:

 

[bruce448]

Very very nice.

Bruce

 

[rohan]

jankees,
absolutely fantastic - thank you muchly,
best regards,
Ro
:ernae:

 

[huub vink]

Looks good Jan Kees! But what happened with the bare metal French livery?

Cheers,
Huub

 

[jankees]

That was just uploaded and became available on OZX:

together with this
one:

and our
dutch friend:

I hope you'll enjoy them, happy flying!!

 

[Pips]

Outstanding!! I'm off the grab them.

 

[Cleartheprop]

terrific repaints Jan! thank you :ernae:

 

[huub vink]

Thanks JanKees, I like it!

Huub

 

[CG_1976]

May i please req a paint for this wonderful aircraft if there are any interested painters please.
1st Air Training Group. Forca Aerea Brasileira

 

[jankees]

That shouldn't be too difficult, give me a bit of time..

 

[jankees]

How's this?