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FaceTracking with just your web-cam

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robcap

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Hi all,
I had the opportunity to try this cool View attachment 22885 stuff:

a FREEWARE headtracking software, that only uses a webcam, and some software that has to be installed.

Please alow me to quote from their site:
The existing programs have proven their power and are used by many people around the world. These programs have also got a few shortcomings: they may cost you quite a bit and they require the users to wear some clip, hat or other device with LED's to make it work...

To make face-tracking available to everyone and eliminate the need for anything but your computer and a (simple) web-cam, we started making FaceTrackNoIR in May 2010 and by now, over 100 games/sims can be played with it.

New in version 1.4 is support for MS Flight Simulator 2002, 2004 and FSX, as well as support for some older games like CFS3.
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The webcam I use is an old Playstation 2 EYETOY (stole it from the kids:kilroy:), with windows drivers.

Just install the program, version 1.3, then install the update 4 over that, for FS compatibility.

Check their site:
http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm

Downloads here:
http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/information_links/download.htm

Give it a go, it's extremely easy to use, and, a DUTCH developement and implementation.
Let me know what you think of this!

Cheers, Rob
 
Excellent, I like trackir, but hate having to wear a hat for the track clip.

I downloaded the face API to try building something like this, but my c++ is a bit rusty. Will definitely have to try this
 
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Naw, I surmise it's an adjunct to TrackIR, but it tracks your face, rather than the paraphernalia we must currently wear on our heads.

So if I have it right, with this software also running, you'd be able to ditch the clip thingies and just have TIR follow your face.

If !
 
HighGround22 said:
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Naw, I surmise it's an adjunct to TrackIR, but it tracks your face, rather than the paraphernalia we must currently wear on our heads.
So if I have it right, with this software also running, you'd be able to ditch the clip thingies and just have TIR follow your face.
If !
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Correct!
But without the Infra Red LED's as well. Just a webcam, the program, your face, ambient light (no need to sit in a darked out room). Easy as pie, 6 DOF (like trackIR) fully custumisable for sensitivity.

Absolutely brilliant.
Mind you, still under constant developement.

R.
 
Thanks for the link Rob.

I've thought about trackir but been put off by the price and the need to have a clip. If I had a webcam though I'd give this a try.
 
I've tried and it works in FSX, but it's very slow when compared to TrackIR 4 (this is the one I own), but maybe it's because my camera is very cheap one.
 
empeck said:
I've tried and it works in FSX, but it's very slow when compared to TrackIR 4 (this is the one I own), but maybe it's because my camera is very cheap one.
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Headtracking with webcams is ver dependent on the camera used. My self-built IR headtracking system is gathering dust becuase I never got around to buy a better cam (= 30 GPS steady) for it.
 
I wrote a little program to interface faceAPI and SimConnect sometime ago. The problem is that face tracking tends to be lower and not so reliable. I've given up and built IR markers to use with FreeTrack instead.
 
I installed it, and after an ippcore-5.3.dll error was corrected went into FSX to see what I had. Everything appears to connect correctly, but I get nothing in the game, no movement at all. The Manual is no help as it doesn't really tell you how to get it up and running by the numbers. . .it seems to just assume it will on it's own I guess. From there it gives you information on fine tuning, but nothing to suggest how to get started and what to do if it doesn't.:salute:
 
Looks interesting. Still think a binocular cam set-up would work very well. Something using a modified Kinect or dual web-cams could vastly increase the accuracy of head tracking without having to wear an IR or reflective device on you head.
 
This program is great. I just installed it today and only had to make a couple iif sensitivity tweeks and it seems to be working fine in FSX. I am running it on an HP laptop with Win 7 64 bit and a built in web cam. The only thing i dont like is when you shift to outside view it is still working and disables my hat switch side movements but allows up and down. Other than that it feels very natural when scanning in the virtual cockpit. Hopefully further developements will make this even better than it already is.:salute:
 
I just installed it, and on starting, it says : No DLLs were found in the Waterfall procedure-OK-The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142). Click OK to close the application...how do I fix this?
 
@ navychief8. That's exactly how I have it working.

@ James and falcon409, I have no further knowledge of the program. But on their site is a link for support. Try there. I'ms sure they will help. I will point the autor to this thread, maybe he can help.

@wing_z. indeed it disables the hat switch of the joystick. With banking camare, you can use both, so it can probably be fixed.

@anthony31, get a webcam ;-)

Cheers, Rob
 
Sorry to say, this program is a total flop!!!, it has no instructions worth a nickel, the camera lights up shows your ugly face, a mask forms around it and bye bye guy!!!!!....I spent one whole hour fooling with this thing and "junked it" a few seconds ago.......I wonder why some people put out these " snake doctor medicine man" concoctions without really messing with them first....crazy, totally crazy....if it works for ya, I hope you enjoy it a lot........me?, I'll continue to keep my head in its place, secure.....:gameoff::barf:
 
gera said:
Sorry to say, this program is a total flop!!!, it has no instructions worth a nickel, the camera lights up shows your ugly face, a mask forms around it and bye bye guy!!!!!....I spent one whole hour fooling with this thing and "junked it" a few seconds ago.......I wonder why some people put out these " snake doctor medicine man" concoctions without really messing with them first....crazy, totally crazy....if it works for ya, I hope you enjoy it a lot........me?, I'll continue to keep my head in its place, secure.....:gameoff::barf:
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Seems like a good concept - getting it running was a breeze, just install and copy the update in place.

On the downside, the program used up quite a bit of my CPU and RAM while running, and the results weren't that spectacular. It tracked slowly, and didn't feel like it was translating my movements properly.
 
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