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T-37B Microsimulator?
- Thread starter Mach3DS
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falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
Yep, this started out as a way for the author to continue his Pilot Training after hours. It mushroomed into the amazing FS9 addon and I'm sure he had every intention of producing an FSX version, but I think time and his AF commitments eventually put an end to it. Some folks have been able to get it going in FSX, but some of the gauges and systems are unusable. Afraid you won't see anything else from them.:salute:
I advocated the T-37 as a companion to the T-38 about 8 months ago over at the Milviz Beta forum. I still think it's a good idea, but who am i.....
warchild
Charter Member
A few months ago, several of us really pushed to inspire someone into making a dragon fly. I even volunteered to make the flight model for it, but, the bottom line, is that no one wants to make it. Let me just leave it at that cuz i'm still pretty damned angry about it and i dont want to say mean things..
Pam
Pam
falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
Yea I agree wholeheartedly Pam, it would be a great airplane to model but like several others I thought would be much needed, this one has not been very popular either. I tend to keep my mouth shut and complain very little because I know somewhat how much time and effort goes into making these airplanes and I don't want to make the list of folks who pop on here, holler "Make me this and I need it in a month", lol and then disappear. I've lobbied many times for the F-100 Super Saber, but also for naught.
StormILM
Charter Member
Someone mention Colombian Air Force (FAC) A-37's? 
Took these at the Colombian Armed Forces Museum in Bogota a little while back. Back in 2005, I was near an FAC base watching A-37's launch(6 total) fully armed. About 1+20 later, they came back in empty!
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Took these at the Colombian Armed Forces Museum in Bogota a little while back. Back in 2005, I was near an FAC base watching A-37's launch(6 total) fully armed. About 1+20 later, they came back in empty!View attachment 52621View attachment 52622
Mach3DS
Charter Member
So all that being said, does anyone know how to contact this guy? Or does anyone know him personally? If it's not being sold, and it's no longer available (even from Flight1 - I know because I tried. It's a continuous loop, go to flight1, redirect to the tweet website - download fails) then maybe we could convince him to allow it to be released as freeware?
falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
Nice shots. I wish they'd air up the tires then raise the aircraft up somehow for display rather than having it sit on deflated tires.Someone mention Colombian Air Force (FAC) A-37's?
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falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
All I remember is that after UPT he went on to fly transports. C-130's for a while I think, not sure what he's flying now or if he's even still in the AF.:salute:
warchild
Charter Member
Or even to allow someone too update it ( I'll still volunteer for the flight model )..
Let me give you a couple better images of the lil lady showing her stuff..
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Let me give you a couple better images of the lil lady showing her stuff..
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Wish we could find a way to get it to work in fsx. I installed right after building my new computer a couple years ago, and it keeps telling me I have a pirated copy even though I paid for it and it works great in fs9.
Darrell
Darrell
Prowler1111
Charter Member 2011
We are creating one for FSX (and the strike fighter series) currently in the info gathering phase (i´m next to an airbase full of them, phased out last year, so no problems getting close), it´s in the pipeline, but it´s behind 3 other projects
Prowler
Prowler
Mach3DS
Charter Member
This is good news! Can I sign up to be a beta tester? lol. Seriously though...Those spots go fast!
Railrunner130
Charter Member
I've always thought that the A-37 with the hardpoints empty would be a fun airplane. The reason being that they have more powerful engines.
But then I ponder-
I wonder if the extra weight of an empty A-37 combined with the more powerful engines would perform differently than the lighter T-37 with the less powerful engines.?
But then I ponder-
I wonder if the extra weight of an empty A-37 combined with the more powerful engines would perform differently than the lighter T-37 with the less powerful engines.?
warchild
Charter Member
There were actually two different engines and three different power ratings for the A-37. The first engine was the typical small cessna jet and I have no clue what that put out. The engine for the A-37A was a 2400 pound thrust J-58 and the A-37B was a 2850 pound thrust J-58. The A-37B obviously could fly like a bat outta hell..
StormILM
Charter Member
There were actually two different engines and three different power ratings for the A-37. The first engine was the typical small cessna jet and I have no clue what that put out. The engine for the A-37A was a 2400 pound thrust J-58 and the A-37B was a 2850 pound thrust J-58. The A-37B obviously could fly like a bat outta hell..
Warchild, did you mean J-85?
The J-85 in the A-37 is an non-afterburning F-5/T-38 engine(a militarized version of a GE CJ610(aka Learjet engine). It has nearly 3 times more thrust @max power than the Continental Teledyne J-69 engines in the Tweet. Empty weight on the T-37 is 4,056lbs and MTOW @ 6,569lbs and the EW on the A-37 is 6,211 lbs and MTOW @ 14,000lbs. The A-37 can cruise about 46kts above the T-37's max speed and max about 130+ kts over the T-37. Having seen the Dragonfly really pushed even loaded up it is definitely more impressive than the Tweet. One thing I always hated was handling the Tweet on ramp. They were nicknamed 'The Flying Dog Whistle" due to the horrible screech from their engines. That's not to mention having to stand fire guard for them on every engine start.
icycle
SOH-CM-2024
Had to jump in here. I agree, never had the "pleasure" to work with T/A-37, but it had to be the loudest small jet on the planet!!
Come to think of it, it would have been interesting to see an A-37 powered by a J-58. Hmmm.....
32K thrust on a 14K full load airframe, again Hmmm....
Bill
falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
My last PCS assignment was Perrin AFB. We had F-102's, but Sheppard kept a small contingency of T-37's here as well (about 10) and would fly between Perrin and Sheppard every day for Pilot Training. We were told to wear double ear protection (ear plugs and ear protectors) before getting within ear shot of the tweets. I also taught the Egress System to the VNAF for a year in late 69' early 70' at Binh Thuy AB. The A-37 seemed custom made for the Vietnamese pilots. I actually saw several put what appeared to be thick phone books in the seat before climbing in to get them above the windscreen, lol. Don't forget the minigun added inside the R/H nose Access door. The pilots loved that thing.:salute: