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Reasons FSX Users Don't Move to P3D

mmann

mmann

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There are good reasons why the majority of flight simmers stick with FSX:

1. Compatible with the widest range of the latest and greatest addons.
2. The license allows for using the simulator as entertainment.
3. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have never had an OOM, my frame rate clings to 30 (where I have it set) and my FSX runs very smooth.
 
Fun to see an 'opposing' thread. :)

While I do agree that P3D is moving us into the future, I still really wonder where the line is drawn on the licensing aspect. I know for myself, a developer license is self explanatory. However, others? Academic? I guess..

- Joseph
 
fsxar177 said:
Fun to see an 'opposing' thread. :)

While I do agree that P3D is moving us into the future, I still really wonder where the line is drawn on the licensing aspect. I know for myself, a developer license is self explanatory. However, others? Academic? I guess..

- Joseph
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Business 101, make money. From their own point of view, the more sales the merrier. Only two things will affect this,
1: their licence from Microsoft and what it entails.*
2: Public perception.**

As long as the two criteria are not infringed, Lockheed P3D division will be happy to report to their bosses that sales are continuing, or even better, up. LM is still a business after all. Bottom line is EVERYTHING. Thinking otherwise is just naive.

Jamie

* Conditions of the source code useage may/or may not impact this, dependent on if MS gets a cut on the sales. Royalties, as such.
** Remember what happened in the news after 9/11? If similar happened from a weapons manufactures product, imagine how much stronger the public/media response would be. God forbid!!
 
Just personal preference of course but I don't want to spend more money on another 32 bit sim, not to mention all the add ons installing and set up. But for me that will change when it goes 64 bit. I'll be all over it at that point.
 
mmann said:
There are good reasons why the majority of flight simmers stick with FSX:

1. Compatible with the widest range of the latest and greatest addons.
2. The license allows for using the simulator as entertainment.
3. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have never had an OOM, my frame rate clings to 30 (where I have it set) and my FSX runs very smooth.
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No need for a heated argument over this, just some of my experience as a new P3D user:
(I had the same arguments as you for not getting P3D until I tested it... )

1. I would say that 90% or more of the addons we currently have for FSX works in P3D. A small % need some easy workarounds and a minimal % don't work. Almost all of the latest addons are fully compatible with P3D.
2. Who is stopping you from using P3D for entertainment (and learning)? I certainly are using it for both and I guess that is maybe the biggest marked for the academic version. Just LM that cant state it is actually doing entertainment.
3. You don't know how broke FSX is before you have tried P3D V2.5... that is my experience, it is so much better. The smooth and graphically much improved flight feeling in P3D has really been a revitalising of my simming.

Just my opinion.
 
mmann said:
There are good reasons why the majority of flight simmers stick with FSX:

1. Compatible with the widest range of the latest and greatest addons.
2. The license allows for using the simulator as entertainment.
3. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have never had an OOM, my frame rate clings to 30 (where I have it set) and my FSX runs very smooth.
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This is the same set of reasons I stayed with FS9 until May 2014!
 
1. Use FSX how i want to
2. About 150GB of addons that i don't want to transfer over lol. Same reason my FSX SE is still Vanilla
 
I'll admit I was stubborn as hell over moving from FS9 to FSX and that being because of how much I spent on FS9 addons but equally as important, PC specs and performance in the early days was pivotal to keep FS9 while easing into FSX. I agree, this type of discussion really isn't about creating any heated debate about which platform is superior, it's more about the direction of things and then eventual crossover to a superior/more evolved platform. Hopefully the Devs at all levels can help ease that transition for us users who've spent lots of hard earned money into all of this. I think P3D is the future(and add to that, perhaps other platforms) but FSX will still be relevant a few more years at least.
 
So for us lazy folks who haven't taken the time to read between the educational only lines what is the deal. Is is a one time payment or a type of subscription? How much to pay for it and be done with it like the original FSX?
How solid is LMs deal. Can MS flex it's muscles if they think that it is successful enough that they want the whole pie? What if they tighten up the definition of educational?
Obviously I have not given this much attention, in fact I had hoped it would just go away so the FSX developer waters aren't muddied, but I don't want to be that guy, you know the one who says "will there be an FS9 version?" all the time.
 
I've said it before I'll say it again FSX is my last flight simulator. If I do anything it'll be going over to DCS.
 
My reason is that I already have FSX running very well. I am happy with it right now.
Good to hear that many older addons do work in P3D. This is a concern of mine.
 
mmann said:
There are good reasons why the majority of flight simmers stick with FSX:

1. Compatible with the widest range of the latest and greatest addons.
2. The license allows for using the simulator as entertainment.
3. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have never had an OOM, my frame rate clings to 30 (where I have it set) and my FSX runs very smooth.
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For many of us, it's an issue of still running older hardware and OS's like XP Home for financial reasons. I've just bought a used 10" Galaxy notepad in anticipation on my desktop computer's demise; it is running on a wing and a prayer right now....once it goes, it will most likely be the end of flight sims for me. A new desktop computer is just not a priority in the coming years.....to many other things have been sitting on the back burner for too many years now. I've enjoyed repainting aircraft for FS9 and FSX for the past few years, but since Adobe Photoshop has gone to a yearly subscription service, that too is no longer an option. Hopefully I'll get my last couple of repaints for Virtavia's Martin Mars and R3Y Tradewind out before this computer kicks the bucket.

Tommy
 
fsxar177 said:
Fun to see an 'opposing' thread. :)

- Joseph
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Which is precisely why I started this thread. A subtle reminder that if I really wanted to consider P3D I would using the Prepar3D forum (with 8 Viewing) as opposed to the FSX forum (with 61 Viewing). :running:
 
mmann said:
Which is precisely why I started this thread. A subtle reminder that if I really wanted to consider P3D I would using the Prepar3D forum (with 8 Viewing) as opposed to the FSX forum (with 61 Viewing). :running:
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It is interesting to read both sides. I have had P3D since its initial release, but until this most recent version, I paid little attention to the sim. Really is amazing!

Although I uninstalled FSX-O, I plan to maintain FSX-SE on my system as well as I have SO many addons for it, both freeware and payware. As the number of developers grow who are updating their creations to work with P3Dv2.5, I believe so will the popularity of that sim. I could be wrong, but so far the indications (to me, at least) seem to point that direction.

FSX continues to evolve though. Consider the amount of adaptations/modifications it has gone through, I think it will "live" alongside P3D, DCS, and others for quite a while longer. NC
 
I have no issue with P3D. I've had it installed a few times since v2 was released, and have had (and let lapse) developer subscriptions a few times. If they continue to keep moving forward the way they have been, I will seriously consider switching at some point.

However, quite simply, I have no real strong urge to switch. I'd be switching simply for the sake of doing so. I've happily maintained my heavily-customized-via-symlinks FSX installation for quite some time now, going on two years I think, and everything is running really, really good. I lock at 30fps, and manage to maintain that in 99% of my flying, across a wide variety of payware aircraft and scenery. No stutters, no hiccups, no crashes, just start and go.

If I had problems with FSX, or if there were features strong enough to make me want them, then I'd reconsider.

Also in the back of my mind is some of the scenery that I've installed... My latest region to get a full 'makeover' is Hawaii. Installing the photoscenery, airport packs, FSDT airports, separate freeware autogen, and then making it all work cohesively together was a time consuming task. I have several regions like that were I have nearly every enhancement possible, with the time invested in making it all play nice together. I better have a damn good reason to do some of that over!! :)
 
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