A quick fix to seeing double AI aircraft

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Sid2008

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Hello, I recently loaded the vintage AI from Calclassic. Now I have vintage propliners and jets plying the skies. It is a beautiful package, which I highly recommend to those of us who appreciate the 1930s-1970s avaition.

I must have loaded the same AI files twice or more because ocassionally I see double, meaning 2 of trhe same aircraft flying together, often one partly inside the other.

Is there a quick fix to this silly problem?

Thank you,
Sid
 
Well, a good first step would be to find any duplicate traffic files and delete one of them.


Also, you mention of installing the Cal Classics AI package and having vintage propliners and jets. Last time I looked there weren't any jets in the Cal Classics AI scheme, being as how it was set in the late 1950s, before the advent of most jetliners. (The DH Comet was around then, but I don't think there were any Comets in the Cal Classics package.) I admit that my Cal Classics AI traffic isn't the latest version, so maybe they added some jets after I installed the version I'm running - but I don't think so. If you installed the Cal Classics propliners without removing the stock traffic file, that would explain why you're seeing jets, and it would also explain why you see duplicate aircraft. They're probably all duplicated, but you only see both planes when one doesn't fit completely inside the other, or when FS doesn't synchronize them perfectly.
 
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Hi,

I have lots of early jets in the AI package now - LAX in 1959: :)

LAX_AI.jpg


First possibility - when you install my AI traffic, it comes with three years available - 1957, 1959, and 1962. Only ONE of these scenery layers should be active at one time (i.e. have the check mark next to the scenery layer). Make sure you don't have more than one checked.

If you installed my traffic long ago (i.e. years ago), it installed into a different folder than it does today. If you still have that old folder active in your Scenery Library, then you may have double traffic.

Hope this helps,

Tom Gibson
CalClassic Propliners
www.calclassic.com
 
OK, that explains a lot!

I have the original 1959 version, backdated to around 1954 by the substitution of DC-3 and DC-4 variants for the turboprops. And if I recall correctly, there were no jets in it.

I thought there was a newer version, but didn't realize that there are three newer versions!
 
I just grabbed the Cal Classics AI plane set number 4, which includes both the Goose and the Goat. It's not clear from the documentation whether they're meant to work from water, and that makes me think they're not; I'd think something like that would've been mentioned prominently.

Can anyone tell me for sure, and save me the time and trouble of making experimental installations?
 
Hi,

The Goose is Bill Lyon's AI version that does fly from water. I don't know what a Goat is, but the Albatross is Mike Stone's, and I don't know of one that doesn't have working landing gear. So the contact points are set for water landings, but it lands with its gear down.

Hope this helps,
 
tgibson said:
Hi,

The Goose is Bill Lyon's AI version that does fly from water. I don't know what a Goat is, but the Albatross is Mike Stone's, and I don't know of one that doesn't have working landing gear. So the contact points are set for water landings, but it lands with its gear down.

Hope this helps,
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Thanks Tom,

Looks like the Goose is what I was looking for.

"Goat" is what the HU-16 (SA-16 to us pre-1962 types) was called by its crews, rather than the official moniker, "Albatross." Just as the F-16 is known as the "Viper" rather than "Fighting Falcon," and the A-10 is known as the "Warthog" rather than the "Thunderbolt II." Don't ask me how the name originated; I haven't a clue.

I had no idea that Mike Stone ever made an SA-16; I only know of the one by Greg Pepper. But if there isn't one with the dear action disabled, I guess it doesn't matter which one I have or who made them.

I've got a few ideas about what I might do with that AI float Goose.

Thanks again.
 
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