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Adding Immersion to Missions thread

Led Zeppelin said:
Not possible with the mission builder. You have to open the mission xml file and setup the first waypoint with the following parameters:
Type="turn"
Speed="0"
Alt="0.00"

The most diffucult thing is to setup the Lat-Lon accurately. Personnaly, I use to ride around an airfield with a vehicule and when I'm at the location I want the aircraft to be in the mission I'm building, I just note Lat-Lon values by pressing 'z'.
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Hi LZ

Yeah, but have you already remarked how imprecise Lat/Lon can be using "z" or whatever other resource? Sometimes I have to spend many hours trying the best location for a facility with the MB. And the taxi or runaway lights, then? A true Job's work!! (Or Job's job?)
 
Not so much MB issues, but the CFS3 map, in translating real world locations to the sim. As we all know it's a very crude copy, but often target features are non-existant or very different, so historical missions are sometime difficult to position accurately. Classic for me was trying to find the dutch large supply canal for the target in one of my Hurricane IV missions. Eventually I found that there was no canal but a small stream/ small river.

But perhaps this enough of the negatives, which regular mission builders already know.

I too enjoy adding atmosphere to take offs and landings too and have already picked up some good tips and ideas mentioned here. I always try to have over flying aircraft and have other friendlies orbiting further out. The UK especially had a busy airspace. Ground activity in areas where you are not warping adds immersion too. I would like to see more non goal spawns for this.
 
remcoc said:
Hi Steve,

I haven't build much missions lately: the realworld takes much of my time. When is the European economy going to settle down??
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Anyway: 2 questions regarding this thread.

1. How to start a mission not on the runway, but somewhere at an airfield? How to do this in the MB?

2. I allways hoped some-one could realise taxiing aircraft. I dream of Lancasters or Mosquitos lining up on the airfield with turning props while I'am taking off.
I asked the question before ont his forum. I saw a video based on the Korean add-on. In this video some jetfighters drove over the airfield. I was told that these were planes adapted to vehicles. But no futher help was given.
So I have the next questions:
a. is this allready possible in ETO?
b. If not: who has the skills to explain me how to do that?
c. Could this be done with propellorplanes to?
RemcoC
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Here is a real easy way to start your aircraft anywhere on the airfield, that does not require any lat/longs.

Build your mission in MB and place the player aircraft near or over the airfield, use something slow to start with maybe an L-5 or Storch. You can change the aircraft later. It is easier to spot things on the ground at 80 mph than 200.

Next take an easily recognizable vehicle that will be different from anything else on the airfield and place it on the airfield using MB. When you do the WPs be sure and use .01 as the speed so the vehicle does not move.

Fly the mission and then see where you have placed the vehicle and the direction it is pointed. You can also place invisible facilities around to help give you position and bearing information on that horrible MB map.

Open up MB and move the staging vehicle in the direction and distance you need to locate it properly. The key is to have some reference items on the MB map to use as a basis for relocating the staging vehicle.

Once you have the staging vehicle where you want it and it is pointed in the right direction, simply replace it with the player aircraft. With practice you can accomplish the placement pretty fast and with only a few test flights.

Be sure you have the rest of the mission completely built before you start fooling around with the player aircraft or you will waste time editing the mission in notepad.

BTW it is possible to make some of the other aircraft taxi slowly with their lights on during night missions near the runway. It dose not work for all but will for some. I know the Storch will do it as I have done it in missions.
Steve
 
Locating facilities in MB

As mentioned before the key to locating anything in MB is to have points of reference. The MB map is not of much use so I make my own points of reference. They can be the player aircraft wps, staging facilities, ships or facilities randomly placed near where you are working and these will give you distance and bearing to work from.

It is important to remember that when you zoom in and reduce the scale of the map in MB that a one inch move of an item is much less than the distance moved with a larger scale. Use the same scale each time when positioning the item or you will drive yourself crazy. For example if you are using a MB map set at 3.0 miles and you move something 1/2 inch it will move a much greater distance than it will if you are using .6 miles.

If you are trying to locate something near a coastline pepper the area with several different small ships pointed different directions. Then when you test fly in MB you can see where they are, fly your aircraft to the exact location you want the item located and then press M. Hit pause and then write down the direction you need to move the item and the distance in inches from the scale of your M map screen. Or something like move item right halfway between the PT boat and the cargo I staged". Also you will learn how to rotate the facility the correct number of degrees to make it line up.

Remember the top of your MB map is always North. You will learn to estimate the angles and direction you need to move with practice.

Steve
 
I have not had the time befoe now to get into mission building, but I will gladly offer my time/talents as a software tester to anyone strapped for time/resources. I have done SF testing and writing error reports professionally (MCSE, A+) and would be honored to be of assistance, if needed.
 
Barnstorm said:
I have not had the time befoe now to get into mission building, but I will gladly offer my time/talents as a software tester to anyone strapped for time/resources. I have done SF testing and writing error reports professionally (MCSE, A+) and would be honored to be of assistance, if needed.
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Kind offer: I will keep it in mind. Time is one of my scrce resources nowadays!

RemcoC
 
I an doing a Airfield mission for you Nigel as I type this..

You will be jumped by the germans, and have to taxi your bird to the runway.. And Get up,
During this the Hun will be pounding your airbase, and your wingmen are Catching H**L also..
I'll send it to you when finished..
Let me Know if there is a special aircraft you want to fly in this..
 
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