AFX Question

falcon409

falcon409

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I don't seem to be able to override the default tower position for an airport I recently built. Seems odd as it wasn't a designated airport to begin with, although the area looked very much like an airport that had been left undone. . .this is in Glacier Bay by the way. Anyway, no matter where I move the tower view in AFX and no matter what altitude I give it, when I go back into FS, it remains in the same original spot.

Any suggestions?:isadizzy:
 
Just a guess....if you're returning to a saved flight scenario in flightsim it's probably hung at where it used to be (saved). Restart flightsim and go to the default start (Cessna at SeaTac). This usually jogs FS9's brain.

Remembered to "Save As" when finished in AFX/AFCAD?

You are in FS9? FS10 towers and views are combined at 100'. You would need ADE to seperate the view from the library object.

I don't have AFX, still use good old AFCAD 221, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)
 
falcon409 said:
I don't seem to be able to override the default tower position for an airport I recently built. Seems odd as it wasn't a designated airport to begin with, although the area looked very much like an airport that had been left undone. . .this is in Glacier Bay by the way. Anyway, no matter where I move the tower view in AFX and no matter what altitude I give it, when I go back into FS, it remains in the same original spot.

Any suggestions?:isadizzy:
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Find the startup flight ????.FLT your using for this area in your document directory. Change it to ????.FLT.TXT then open it in notepad. Near the top of the listing is the tower section, you can change it to what you want then save and delete TXT extender. Have the new coordinates ready before you start.
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Terry said:
Find the startup flight ????.FLT your using for this area in your document directory. Change it to ????.FLT.TXT then open it in notepad. Near the top of the listing is the tower section, you can change it to what you want then save and delete TXT extender. Have the new coordinates ready before you start.
:ernae:
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Tried it, but it just ignored what I changed and stayed at the same spot. I even went back into the flt file and it was just as I had changed it, but use that flight and it remains at the default position.
 
falcon409 said:
Tried it, but it just ignored what I changed and stayed at the same spot. I even went back into the flt file and it was just as I had changed it, but use that flight and it remains at the default position.
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I would try creating a new flight from the main menu, save the flight, then edit the tower in the saved flight. Are you sure you don't have an extra AF2 file floating around somewhere? I'm not familiar with AFX but AFCAD shows you all the AF2's for each airport designator.
 
Terry said:
. . . . .Are you sure you don't have an extra AF2 file floating around somewhere? I'm not familiar with AFX but AFCAD shows you all the AF2's for each airport designator.
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Well, this is a "from scratch" airport, not a redo of an existing one. If MS did, for some reason, place a tower view there, i wouldn't have any way of knowing what the reference info might be.
 
falcon409 said:
I don't seem to be able to override the default tower position for an airport I recently built. Seems odd as it wasn't a designated airport to begin with, although the area looked very much like an airport that had been left undone. . .this is in Glacier Bay by the way. Anyway, no matter where I move the tower view in AFX and no matter what altitude I give it, when I go back into FS, it remains in the same original spot.

Any suggestions?:isadizzy:
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falcon409, would you share the Lat/Lon of your tower? Those of us with GB installed can take a look at the default GB setup. Maybe an anomaly left behind in the GB pkg.
Another thought...with AFCAD, an actual tower can't be placed, just the view. If there is an existing tower it remains in its original position, but the view can be manipulated to anywhere. From reading up on AFX, an actual tower can be placed. Is the tower from the FS9 library? As mentioned previously, the FSX tower and its view are bound. I don't know if you have FSX, but if so, perhaps the tower you chose is from that library.
 
dogknot said:
falcon409, would you share the Lat/Lon of your tower? Those of us with GB installed can take a look at the default GB setup. Maybe an anomaly left behind in the GB pkg.
Another thought...with AFCAD, an actual tower can't be placed, just the view. If there is an existing tower it remains in its original position, but the view can be manipulated to anywhere. From reading up on AFX, an actual tower can be placed. Is the tower from the FS9 library? As mentioned previously, the FSX tower and its view are bound. I don't know if you have FSX, but if so, perhaps the tower you chose is from that library.
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I haven't placed a tower as the airport isn't large enough to support as a controlled airspace. I simply placed a "Tower Viewpoint" within AFX and gave it an elevation. Also, this is GB Ver. 2 not the original Glacier Bay.

Lat N59* 9.9180'
Lon W138* 29.3474'
 
Falcon,

are you loading a pre-saved flight? or creating a new one? If using a saved flight I think the tower location is loaded from that. The flight will not update this until you re-create it from scratch once your new tower view is made. If there is no tower near I think FS places one randomly near the start airport, this may be what has been saved in the flight.

Also, have you got that auto tower switch thingy, forget it's name, it can tell you which tower the view is from.

Jamie
 
You've got yourself a beautiful spot, falcon409. That much we can agree on. It does look like an abandoned airstrip. I'm guessing it was probably the default FS9 position of Alsek River A57, before Holger positioned everything correctly in GB ver2.

Of course, none of that has any bearing on your tower view dilemma. I'm still leaning to the speculation in my first post, and Jamie's recent post. AFCAD will have the same results if FS returns to a saved flight.

You could try opening the FS map, select Tower, move the default tower by drag and drop to your airstrip, and see if the default view/function is still working.

Then maybe try "Go To Airport"/Alsek River-A57/shut down FS9/Restart/"Go to Airport"/select your new airstrip..see if that resets your newest tower view.
 
I'll bet your using "Autotower". If so anytime you make a new airport or change the viewpoint of an existing airport towerview you must go to your module directory and delete (autotower.dat). It has priority and the viewpoint will be set from that file. When you next start FS, autotower.dll will build a new autotower.dat file using the newer coordinates.
It's a good program but will not update itself automatically.
 
Okay,

I dialed up that airfield (A57) and it is close. I used AFX to put the helo at the co-ords you say, first pic. You can see it is over stock water, you can also see the stock afcad file and the runway for A57 quite some distance away.

The second pic is switched to tower view, you can just make out the helo in the distance. There is no tower view in the stock afcad, if FS randomly generates a viewpoint, it may be different next time, will test.

Jamie
 
Added a tower view with AFX,

first pic, looks promosing, second pic shows where the view is actually from, or there-abouts, close to the AFX tower view, but not on it. Has this changed from the default? dunno, will test some-more.

Dunno if this would help any, but it's fun playing. :d

Jamie
 
Terry said:
I'll bet your using "Autotower". If so anytime you make a new airport or change the viewpoint of an existing airport towerview you must go to your module directory and delete (autotower.dat). It has priority and the viewpoint will be set from that file. When you next start FS, autotower.dll will build a new autotower.dat file using the newer coordinates.
It's a good program but will not update itself automatically.
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posted mine whilst you were, read afterwards, D'oh!!! yup, sounds about right, how to forget about that!!

Jamie
 
Yup Terry that worked a treat for me, shoulda added a bit of altitude to my tower tho, double D'oh!!

Jamie
 
Ok,
Well, nothing is working here. I don't use autotower, modifying the tower setting in "map view" does nothing, I deleted the saved flight, started with a flight at Seatac and then changed to the new airport, now the tower view is about 3 feet off the ground and about 2 miles from the airport, lol.
I'm going back into AFX and try it one more time, then I'll just delete the tower viewpoint in the AFCAD and pretend like there isn't any, lol.
 
Maybe using an Exclude box around the offending tower would work with AFX. I haven't used exclude all that much. Only to get rid of a bit of ramp or taxiway. :wavey:
 
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