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Aircraft the make you feel "there"
- Thread starter SADT
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My opinion is that realistic looking virtual cockpit, diverse soundset, somewhat accurate systems modeling and believable flight dynamics are key points.
Therefore I answer, A2A Cub/Fortress, RealAir Duke, PMDG 744, VRS Superbug. Of course there are others but those I mentioned are the planes I spend most of my time in.
Therefore I answer, A2A Cub/Fortress, RealAir Duke, PMDG 744, VRS Superbug. Of course there are others but those I mentioned are the planes I spend most of my time in.
peter12213
FSX Acceleration!
Razbam A6E
Razbam F102
Sibwings bird dog / Safir
Nemeth ka26 "Hoodlum" (old but I still fly it)
Iris F16
Iris Vulcan
A2A Bf109E
The new Just Flight stuff
Many Many More too!
I forgot about Vertigo Studios, I fly all there aircraft too!
Razbam F102
Sibwings bird dog / Safir
Nemeth ka26 "Hoodlum" (old but I still fly it)
Iris F16
Iris Vulcan
A2A Bf109E
The new Just Flight stuff
Many Many More too!
I forgot about Vertigo Studios, I fly all there aircraft too!
Cleartheprop
Charter Member
Hard to reduce to one aircraft; I would say :
Classics Hangar FW190
Vertigo Studios P-36
Lionheart Creations Skylark
FSAddon Gloster Gladiator
Realair Spitfire
Samdim Design Cap-10
Anthony Lynch Tigermoth
Flight Replicas Supercub
Lotus L-39
Feelthere Emb145
Carenado Bonanza
...and I miss many others.
Classics Hangar FW190
Vertigo Studios P-36
Lionheart Creations Skylark
FSAddon Gloster Gladiator
Realair Spitfire
Samdim Design Cap-10
Anthony Lynch Tigermoth
Flight Replicas Supercub
Lotus L-39
Feelthere Emb145
Carenado Bonanza
...and I miss many others.
Pips
Charter Member
For me it's the sensation of real seat-of-the-pants flying, the ground dropping away on take-off, the effect of wind on the aeroplane, the difficulty of just staying airborne.
And that spells Vintage aeroplanes.
Specifically, my favourites (at present) are Dirk Stuck's Curtiss Jenny, Jean-Michel Castagne's Bleriot XI, and the reasonably sophisticated (by comparison) Tiger Moth by Anthony Lynch
Just getting to the destination, and landing safely, is a real treat.
And that spells Vintage aeroplanes.
Specifically, my favourites (at present) are Dirk Stuck's Curtiss Jenny, Jean-Michel Castagne's Bleriot XI, and the reasonably sophisticated (by comparison) Tiger Moth by Anthony Lynch
Just getting to the destination, and landing safely, is a real treat.
Capt.Vaughn
Charter Member
A2A AccuSim B17g no doubt
txnetcop
Charter Member
A2A B-17G, A2A P-47, A2A Boeing 377, A2A P-40(it just needs accusim)
Bill's Paspard Skylark, EPIC LT, JU-33, Bellanca Cruisematers
Tim's PC-7, Mooney Mite, OV-10, AN-2 (with the right sound package)and A-1H Skyraider,
Flight Replica's L-4s, Me 262, Super Cub (sweet)
Carenado C-185 and 206
Eaglesoft Piper Commance (have flown a few in RL as co-pilot)
REAL Air Scout
Vertigo Studio P-36
Classic Hanger FW190
Samdim Design Cap-10 (amazing)
CaptainSim 727- have flown the Boeing simulator
MAAM DC-3, TBM Avenger
Jan's F-86 (SWEEEEEEET)
Warwick Carter T-6
Jesse's (SKYUNLIMITED) T-6 Texan, P-38 (His T-6s awesome-have been in several in RL)
Anthony's Tigermoth (latest version)
I have to add this: this aircraft are made even more realistic with PNW by FTX
I'm sure I left a few out and for those devs I apologize. We have so many incredibly accurate (for a cheap simulator) aircraft and the immersion factor is very high in most nowadays! Mine is based on my every month flyers. Obviously I can't afford to buy every aircraft out there now.
Ted
Bill's Paspard Skylark, EPIC LT, JU-33, Bellanca Cruisematers
Tim's PC-7, Mooney Mite, OV-10, AN-2 (with the right sound package)and A-1H Skyraider,
Flight Replica's L-4s, Me 262, Super Cub (sweet)
Carenado C-185 and 206
Eaglesoft Piper Commance (have flown a few in RL as co-pilot)
REAL Air Scout
Vertigo Studio P-36
Classic Hanger FW190
Samdim Design Cap-10 (amazing)
CaptainSim 727- have flown the Boeing simulator
MAAM DC-3, TBM Avenger
Jan's F-86 (SWEEEEEEET)
Warwick Carter T-6
Jesse's (SKYUNLIMITED) T-6 Texan, P-38 (His T-6s awesome-have been in several in RL)
Anthony's Tigermoth (latest version)
I have to add this: this aircraft are made even more realistic with PNW by FTX
I'm sure I left a few out and for those devs I apologize. We have so many incredibly accurate (for a cheap simulator) aircraft and the immersion factor is very high in most nowadays! Mine is based on my every month flyers. Obviously I can't afford to buy every aircraft out there now.
Ted
Navy Chief
Senior Member
Ron's (RAZBAM) A-4 Skyhawk series is still one of my favorites!!!!
So much fun!
NC
So much fun!
NC
For many years, this was the MAAM Sim R4D for me.
Now, for me, A2a products like the B17g are on that throne, as well as Vertigos SBD.
Generally, "I'm there" when the flight model is not over simplified, e.g. when you really have to stay inside the typical performance envelope of the aircraft and things like prop torque and aerodynamic effects are properly modeled, and the mechanical systems are simulated, also with a damage profile (engines!).
Another source of immersion for me is the noise, which is way too simple in most FS aircraft. A2A does a good job here, with a diffferent wind noise when you open the cockpit for example, and all kinds of mechanical sounds from the engine(s) and systems.
Another effect I miss from the old days of flying Janes WW2 Fighters is the sound effect when pulling G's, remember that? The more you pulled, the flatter the sound got, like reducing bass and treble from the sound spectrum. One also heard noises the airframe made under stress, although I don't know if this is realistic. I've been in a real T-6 doing aerobatics and I did not hear any noises like that, despite pulling G's that almost blacked me out.
Cheers,
Mark
Now, for me, A2a products like the B17g are on that throne, as well as Vertigos SBD.
Generally, "I'm there" when the flight model is not over simplified, e.g. when you really have to stay inside the typical performance envelope of the aircraft and things like prop torque and aerodynamic effects are properly modeled, and the mechanical systems are simulated, also with a damage profile (engines!).
Another source of immersion for me is the noise, which is way too simple in most FS aircraft. A2A does a good job here, with a diffferent wind noise when you open the cockpit for example, and all kinds of mechanical sounds from the engine(s) and systems.
Another effect I miss from the old days of flying Janes WW2 Fighters is the sound effect when pulling G's, remember that? The more you pulled, the flatter the sound got, like reducing bass and treble from the sound spectrum. One also heard noises the airframe made under stress, although I don't know if this is realistic. I've been in a real T-6 doing aerobatics and I did not hear any noises like that, despite pulling G's that almost blacked me out.
Cheers,
Mark
RealAir Spit
IRIS Vulcan
Aerosoft F16 & TwinOtter
PMDG 747
CS 757
CH Fw190
JF BoB
A2A B17
Flight1 Hunter
I'm hoping the IRIS Typhoon and Virtavia Jaguar will be the first modern RAF types that actually feel immersive.
For me the VC and exterior has to look real and all the switches have to work. Sound and flight dynamics are important too, but as I've never flown any of the aircraft listed above it is more that it shouldn't feel 'wrong' than it should be overly 'right'.
IRIS Vulcan
Aerosoft F16 & TwinOtter
PMDG 747
CS 757
CH Fw190
JF BoB
A2A B17
Flight1 Hunter
I'm hoping the IRIS Typhoon and Virtavia Jaguar will be the first modern RAF types that actually feel immersive.
For me the VC and exterior has to look real and all the switches have to work. Sound and flight dynamics are important too, but as I've never flown any of the aircraft listed above it is more that it shouldn't feel 'wrong' than it should be overly 'right'.
Aerosoft F-16, Flylogic F-5E Tiger II (the photo realistic cockpit is awesome), and two portovers: Cloud9 F-4 and the Microsim T-37 (again, awesome photorealistic cockpits). Even though the F-4 and T-37 aren't fully functional in FSX, their photorealism translates well on my 52 inch HDTV. The inability to click a few switches is no big deal, due to the complete lack of tactile feedback the sim offers anyway (just my viewpoint, that's all).
I love the warbirds and the jets and everything but I picked GA because those are the flying environments that I am trained to fly in real life. RealAir's GA line of craft is what puts me 'there' the most as a pilot. And from my sig you can tell I am in Bill's fabulous Dynasty alot
SADT, I have Win7 64x pro and I am able to use the Scout package just fine including the config program. It is one of my favorite GA planes as well. You might talk to Rob about it because it should work fine on Win7
Cheers
TJ
SADT, I have Win7 64x pro and I am able to use the Scout package just fine including the config program. It is one of my favorite GA planes as well. You might talk to Rob about it because it should work fine on Win7
Cheers
TJ
Alan_A
Charter Member
Much as I love RealAir's flight dynamics (fluidity and sense of mass), for me the "you are there" feeling comes from sound and VC atmosphere, plus the airfile.
Therefore: A2A Cub, P-47 and B-17, Lotussim L-39, Sibwings Birddog (1.2 version), Aerosoft Catalina and Beaver, Carenado 172 and 152 (I miss systems modeling when I fly the Carenados, but still fee like I'm there).
And yet the RealAir Citabria and SF260 keep calling me back...
Therefore: A2A Cub, P-47 and B-17, Lotussim L-39, Sibwings Birddog (1.2 version), Aerosoft Catalina and Beaver, Carenado 172 and 152 (I miss systems modeling when I fly the Carenados, but still fee like I'm there).
And yet the RealAir Citabria and SF260 keep calling me back...
idancesafetydance
Charter Member
It's gliders for me, FSX does a better job simulating gliding than FS9 did. I can actually notice a difference between L/D Max airspeed, and Minimum sink, unlike FS2004 where you are dropping constantly. I really love Wolfgang's LS8-18. Flying the LS8 at my home airport, the virtual version in FSX is quite realistic, and spins realisticly at the highest realism settings.