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And then there were two (Aerosoft cancels A-10)

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michael davies

Charter Member 2012
Well I can finally show a render :).

Quite a nice mesh, probably my best so far to date, still !, plan B it is then LOL.

Kindest

Michael
 
Michael, out of curiosity when something like this happens are you compensated in any way for your time on the project to date?
 
WHAT?????? Why? I was hoping that all variants would be covered and with Aersoft doing the C model....that would have been done.


How about another observation plane.....the A-37 Dragonfly?
 
skyhawka4m said:
WHAT?????? Why? I was hoping that all variants would be covered and with Aersoft doing the C model....that would have been done.


How about another observation plane.....the A-37 Dragonfly?
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Aersosoft never intended to do the C model, that seems to be a idea thats crept in somewhere, only the a model was planned.

Aerosoft explain on their site why and after much conference I concur with their decision.

Your other choice is quite timely :), that is one under consideration along with a few others.

Kindest

Michael
 
N2056 said:
Michael, out of curiosity when something like this happens are you compensated in any way for your time on the project to date?
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Afraid not, you loose the lot, time and expenditure, thats the nature of the game, you know that when you start. When one other appeared it was decided to carry on, but the second, thats too many and a dilution of the market thats just plain folly, waste of our time, the customer deserves more quite frankly.

This one was the least developed, probably the smoothest and cleanest mesh of all three (on current inspection of screenies produced) but no where near complete enough to compete.

This isn't the first time this has happened, nor the last and I suspect I'm not the only one who's side lined models in the past, I just showed the mesh here because some one asked in a previous thread.

Kindest

Michael
 
That was the answer I was afraid I would get. I'm sorry to hear that the project has been given the sack. I give you big kudos in how you deal with this sort of thing. :salute:
 
N2056 said:
That was the answer I was afraid I would get. I'm sorry to hear that the project has been given the sack. I give you big kudos in how you deal with this sort of thing. :salute:
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Thanks, but you get used to it after a while LOL. Theres been so many in the past you become acclimatised to it :).

Its a lot of work and the loss of the mesh can be quiet unsettling, A-10s holding a dear place in my childhood memories, and I probably wont get either of the others as they'll just remind me of this one, but on the plus side, I've learned lots of new tricks and techniques and have a great relationship built up and other pieces in the back ground in place, so none of that has to be formulated again, thus we'll hit the ground running next time :).

Kindest

Michael
 
There's more than one market for a good 3-d mesh. If you still have the rights to the model, then you might consider putting it up on Turbo Squid or 3dDaz.

Small wonder that developers keep their future plans a secret. I can remember back in 1999, four different companies came out with F-22 flight simulators. Nobody won, and the flight sim development in the USA, (except MSFS) pretty much closed up shop.

The cancellation of a project is always sad news.
 
X_eidos2 said:
There's more than one market for a good 3-d mesh. If you still have the rights to the model, then you might consider putting it up on Turbo Squid or 3dDaz.

Small wonder that developers keep their future plans a secret.

The cancellation of a project is always sad news.
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Problem is, thats exactly what has happened here, Aerosoft previewed back in Feb I think, I suppose they thought, that the announcement that the A-10 was being redone and some (admittedly) beta shots would suffice, clearly not and thats not held against the other two A-10s at all, just a very visual lesson in the facts of FS life.

Suffice to say I doubt they will yield a second time :).

I suppose if it'd cracked on it'd be a lot closer to completion, but a race was never envisaged and the rush rush work flow I've seen in the past has just shown that it produces one thing for certain, errors, one objective here was to avoid that stigma as much as possible, each bit was made right and remade if required before moving on to the next.

To preview or not, to let slip or not has been the bane of commercial work for as long as I've been in the game (10 and more years), on the one hand it signals to other developers what you have planned, conversely it also shows your hand and in the past others have rushed to compete and be first and steal the thunder.

The one downside that seemed to show its head with previews was vaporware, items would appear and would cause others to yield and move on, sometimes these previews were shown to do just that, other times the project became still born for any number of reasons you can imagine, the end result was, you just never knew if the preview was valid or a feint.

The other tack is to say nothing at all and run the risk of one or two appearing out of the woodwork either just before you have finished or just after.

I do have the rights to the model, though to let it into the FS market place would be bad form and a rub on Aerosoft which I'm not prepared to risk. To go to somewhere else will require the cockpit to be completed and texturing, all valuable time lost from the new project, so it'll get stored, the mesh has enough fidelity to last a good couple of years in its present form, maybe then it'll emerge in some guise or another.

Kindest

Michael
 
skyhawka4m said:
WHAT?????? Why? I was hoping that all variants would be covered and with Aersoft doing the C model....that would have been done.


How about another observation plane.....the A-37 Dragonfly?
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A-37? observation?/ Does not compute.. The Tweet carried as much ammo as an A-10, all at the same time.. it was a phenomenal little aircraft..

But yeahh, it really sux Aerosoft canceled their version. That would have been a nice plane..
 
warchild said:
A-37? observation?/ Does not compute.. The Tweet carried as much ammo as an A-10, all at the same time.. it was a phenomenal little aircraft..

But yeahh, it really sux Aerosoft canceled their version. That would have been a nice plane..
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Well, maybe not as much, but agree it would be a great addition.
 
Michael,

Wow... IF I had known that it would cancel a project close to your heart, I would never have posted...

I'm really sorry about that...

seriously.
 
michael davies said:
Thanks, but you get used to it after a while LOL. Theres been so many in the past you become acclimatised to it :).

Its a lot of work and the loss of the mesh can be quiet unsettling, A-10s holding a dear place in my childhood memories,

Kindest

Michael
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Then michael, I'll do better than my best on the one i'm workng on, just for you :) ..
 
warchild said:
A-37? observation?/ Does not compute.. The Tweet carried as much ammo as an A-10, all at the same time.. it was a phenomenal little aircraft..
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lol, yea, I had the same thought Pam, lol. I never considered the Dragonfly an Observation Plane and the VNAF Pilots who flew them over their homeland probably didn't either. I worked on the A-37 at Binh Thuy AB for a year in the late 60's and as you mentioned they carried a lot of ordinance, both under the wings and in the minigun. A pretty formidable little aircraft and well suited for the mission in Vietnam.

It would be great to see a detailed FSX version.:salute:
 
falcon409 said:
lol, yea, I had the same thought Pam, lol. I never considered the Dragonfly an Observation Plane and the VNAF Pilots who flew them over their homeland probably didn't either. I worked on the A-37 at Binh Thuy AB for a year in the late 60's and as you mentioned they carried a lot of ordinance, both under the wings and in the minigun. A pretty formidable little aircraft and well suited for the mission in Vietnam.

It would be great to see a detailed FSX version.:salute:
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Oh gods I'd love that.. that lol shoot n scoot was one of the best aircraft over there.. Massive armament, massive gun power, and 300 knots at ten feet aint bad either.. It was an odd looking bird, kinda like a tadpole with a major aggression problem, but man could she fly.. The Pilots at Nha Trang were litterally standing in line to get their hands on one.. And they were regular air force ::LOL:: our own guys.. One was so over xcited he forgot where he was and drove it into a ditch..
 
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