Another KLM livery for Manfred Jahn's C-47

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This repaint shows the PH-DAT in the livery KLM used between 1954 and 1961.

The top of the fuselage was painted white and the banners were applied over nearly the full length of the fuselage. On the left side of the fuselage it had the English text "The Flying Dutchman" and on the right side "De Vliegende Hollander" in Dutch. registration was not longer there to identify an aircraft from the ground, so the registration code was reduced in size. Personally I think this is the best looking livery the KLM ever had.

The PH-DAT was originally built as C47-A with US registration 42-93424 and was delivered to the RAF, where it served with registration KG603. After the war it was sold to the KLM where it originally received the registration PH-TCT. In 1954 the registration was changed in PH-DAT. It remained with the KLM until 1961, after which it was transferred to the airline "De Kroonduif", a former subsidiary of Dutch airline KLM which operated in Dutch New Guinea.
When New Guinea became Indonesian territory the aircraft entered service with Garuda, the national Indonesian airline. After that it flew with different registration with smaller local operators. It has also been used as a training aircraft for para-jumping by the Indonesian Air Force. It was still commercially flying in 2005. The aircraft is preserved and currently owned by the Indonesian Transport Museum. An amazing life for an aircraft which left the factory in 1943!







 
it might be a good idea...

This repaint shows the PH-DAT in the livery KLM used between 1954 and 1961.

The top of the fuselage was painted white and the banners were applied over nearly the full length of the fuselage. On the left side of the fuselage it had the English text "The Flying Dutchman" and on the right side "De Vliegende Hollander" in Dutch. registration was not longer there to identify an aircraft from the ground, so the registration code was reduced in size. Personally I think this is the best looking livery the KLM ever had.

The PH-DAT was originally built as C47-A with US registration 42-93424 and was delivered to the RAF, where it served with registration KG603. After the war it was sold to the KLM where it originally received the registration PH-TCT. In 1954 the registration was changed in PH-DAT. It remained with the KLM until 1961, after which it was transferred to the airline "De Kroonduif", a former subsidiary of Dutch airline KLM which operated in Dutch New Guinea.
When New Guinea became Indonesian territory the aircraft entered service with Garuda, the national Indonesian airline. After that it flew with different registration with smaller local operators. It has also been used as a training aircraft for para-jumping by the Indonesian Air Force. It was still commercially flying in 2005. The aircraft is preserved and currently owned by the Indonesian Transport Museum. An amazing life for an aircraft which left the factory in 1943!








This livery is so very well done... :applause::applause::applause:
It might be a good idea to correct the base texture.... there is a seam going all the way up and down through the forward door...
obviously a lapsus penicillin on the part of Manfred... that can be easily corrected by eliminating the dark line in the middle of the door... there are few others.. that can be easily
corrected for such a super finish... :wiggle::salute:
 
Well spotted Gaucho, I missed that one. As the textures have not been uploaded yet, it can still easily be corrected.

Thanks,
Huub

This livery is so very well done... :applause::applause::applause:
It might be a good idea to correct the base texture.... there is a seam going all the way up and down through the forward door...
obviously a lapsus penicillin on the part of Manfred... that can be easily corrected by eliminating the dark line in the middle of the door... there are few others.. that can be easily
corrected for such a super finish... :wiggle::salute:
 
Well spotted Gaucho, I missed that one. As the textures have not been uploaded yet, it can still easily be corrected.

Thanks,
Huub

Here is some closeups of the front door showing the rivets and line, but not below the door...

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2011-3/5/124626.jpg

http://data.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin2/c-47_pinocchio/C-47 Pinocchio Cold Lake 010.JPG

http://www.pixstel.com/klm-dc-3-close-up_pics245-24571.jpg

http://aircolours.com/photosdiv/1024bdcp/3021870_KLM_DC3_PH-PBA-nose_DHR_15092012-2.jpg

Douglas Technical Drawing with reinforced prop blast plates. Half the door was reinforced with heavy rivets and plate as seen in the pics above. Manfred's C-47 is a later version model.
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Wonder if the any of the previous repaints have similar issues?

As they are all based on the same paintkit I assume they all have it.

Ted, thanks for the additional information!

The rivets and shade below the door are now gone....



For the other repaints.... just keep some distance and you won't notice :icon_lol: :icon_lol:



Cheers,
Huub
 
what is that door for?.....pilot access?..i see the one photo states rescue ,but ive seen a photo of ground crew (so it seemed) loading mail...
 
This is intriguing...

Here is some closeups of the front door showing the rivets and line, but not below the door...

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2011-3/5/124626.jpg

http://data.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin2/c-47_pinocchio/C-47 Pinocchio Cold Lake 010.JPG

http://www.pixstel.com/klm-dc-3-close-up_pics245-24571.jpg

http://aircolours.com/photosdiv/1024bdcp/3021870_KLM_DC3_PH-PBA-nose_DHR_15092012-2.jpg

Douglas Technical Drawing with reinforced prop blast plates. Half the door was reinforced with heavy rivets and plate as seen in the pics above. Manfred's C-47 is a later version model.
View attachment 93745

So very intriguing... what came first? the door or the seam...?.:isadizzy:
Maybe they did the skin and then cut out the door??????? I sure would like to know the answer to this riddle...
Obviously... a seam and rivets denote there was a spar behind it... like why riveting the skin to the door frame...mmm most interesting....
 
Here's some variations of C-47. Note the Early and and A/B model front doors. I couldn't find a DC-3 drawings.

http://goldshy.com/images/dc3_li_lists_med.jpg

DC-3 version...

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/93073/nc-17334-private-douglas-dc-3/

http://www.cessna195.org/hangar/photos/16474_3_ORIGINAL.jpg

Notice the newly replaced sheet metal on this C-47.

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/136942/n47fk-dakota-club-douglas-dc-3/

I'm guessing that the reinforcement was for wartime if prop would let go if hit by flak or just worn out.
 
Very interestink...

Here's some variations of C-47. Note the Early and and A/B model front doors. I couldn't find a DC-3 drawings.

http://goldshy.com/images/dc3_li_lists_med.jpg

DC-3 version...

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/93073/nc-17334-private-douglas-dc-3/

http://www.cessna195.org/hangar/photos/16474_3_ORIGINAL.jpg

Notice the newly replaced sheet metal on this C-47.

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/136942/n47fk-dakota-club-douglas-dc-3/

I'm guessing that the reinforcement was for wartime if prop would let go if hit by flak or just worn out.

Now... the last pic is obviously been "doctored" (read "photoshopped")... notice the camouflage wavy line showing through the duralluminium...aft of it...
paint just does not show through metal....
Nonetheless... your theory about reinforcing the door.. could work... however... it would make the door unusable...
The line drawings DO show a departure from the original door in about the third drawing down... so obviously there must have been some reinforcement done
in some models... go figure...
Maybe we get an investigative thread going on here... :icon_lol::wiggle::mix-smi:
 
Detailed DC3 Drawings

Now... the last pic is obviously been "doctored" (read "photoshopped")... notice the camouflage wavy line showing through the duralluminium...aft of it...
paint just does not show through metal....
Nonetheless... your theory about reinforcing the door.. could work... however... it would make the door unusable...
The line drawings DO show a departure from the original door in about the third drawing down... so obviously there must have been some reinforcement done
in some models... go figure...
Maybe we get an investigative thread going on here... :icon_lol::wiggle::mix-smi:

I think I found where Mr WolfBanger (sp?) found his DC3 drawings. If you click on the image in the lower right corner of link there is an appreciate letter to MR Douglas for providing
detailed tech info to a model airplane company. Click anywhere on the image and it will magnify the detail.

http://inter.action.free.fr/images/affiches/dc3.gif
 
These textures are now available for FSX in the library. Get them while they are still warm!

Enjoy,
Huub







 
Thanks Huub

Thanks for this one :applause:

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BTW When I installed this paint it did not show up till I removed this

[fltsim.XX] <== do not forget to change the XX into the next number in sequence. <<< when I removed the reminder then it showed up imagine that.

BTW My Grandpa was from Ruddersvoorde Belgium and came to USA back in 1913. A WWI vet. Perhaps you have heard of it. I am 2nd Generation American.

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