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Apple Reveals Child Labor was Used to Build iPods,iPhones and Macs
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Here's a good documentary regarding the moral & legal vs. monetary responsibilities of a corporation.
http://www.thecorporation.com/index.cfm?page_id=10
The corporation has all the rights you and I do, without a physical body.The corporation is bound by laws, but if it (as an entity) violates the law, who is to be imprisoned?
Panther_99FS
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Null statement since individuals have violated laws and oftentimes, only ended up with fines....
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tigisfat
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Really? check the statement I quoted. You tooooooooootally did.:ernae:
Panther_99FS
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Panther_99FS
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Well,
This has become circular for me now...I've stated all that I've wanted to.....nothing left for me to say now
This has become circular for me now...I've stated all that I've wanted to.....nothing left for me to say now
But those fines are coming out of their pockets. When you fine a corporation you aren't punishing it, you are just putting a price tag on that wrong deed. There is no personal accountability.
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tigisfat
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It's true China has all sorts of problems, and it'll take years for them to be solved. But this is something that every country goes through when moving from an industrialized society to economical society. China is moving too fast, and thus a lot of problems are forced into the open. As people are hungry for quick and stable money, laws will be broken.
If i'm not mistaken, when the US was going through the same changes back in the 20s and 30s, child labor was the norm. As a society advances, laws get passed to protect against such acts. But it's unfair for a country who has "made it" to start telling other countries what not to do.
Another example is the "western" countries telling China that its producing too much pollution. Well, guess what? All those factories are making goods to supply the western demand!
I'm a US citizen who has started many companies in Asia (one in Beijing, one in Singapore)....so i have first hand view of the situation. There are ways to fix these issues, but it'll take time...and pointing fingers is not the way to do it. I do my part by hiring employees and teaching them that by working hard and taking on responsibilities, you will be rewarded...and that's the true path to success. Taking shortcuts and burning-bridges only equal to short-term gains (something Asia loves to do)....but if you spend the time, build a relationship, it can equal to a life time of wealth....
anyways, my 2cents
-feng
If i'm not mistaken, when the US was going through the same changes back in the 20s and 30s, child labor was the norm. As a society advances, laws get passed to protect against such acts. But it's unfair for a country who has "made it" to start telling other countries what not to do.
Another example is the "western" countries telling China that its producing too much pollution. Well, guess what? All those factories are making goods to supply the western demand!
I'm a US citizen who has started many companies in Asia (one in Beijing, one in Singapore)....so i have first hand view of the situation. There are ways to fix these issues, but it'll take time...and pointing fingers is not the way to do it. I do my part by hiring employees and teaching them that by working hard and taking on responsibilities, you will be rewarded...and that's the true path to success. Taking shortcuts and burning-bridges only equal to short-term gains (something Asia loves to do)....but if you spend the time, build a relationship, it can equal to a life time of wealth....
anyways, my 2cents
-feng
wombat666
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Just to get away from the overblown 'Moralistic High Ground' v the 'Real World' rhetoric how about considering Boeing and their use of Ferrets to build aircraft???
The Ferrets would have been 'under-age' as well.
This is really a subject for the Quarter Moon Saloon, not Newshawks.
The Ferrets would have been 'under-age' as well.
This is really a subject for the Quarter Moon Saloon, not Newshawks.
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