ATI Users - FPS issue?

As an ATI GPU user...:

  • After Tweaking my Settings for the card and CFS3 my FPS is acceptable

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • I have not been able to get good FPS despite tweaking Card settings and adjusting CFS3 sliders.

    Votes: 3 60.0%

  • Total voters
    5
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Winder

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It seems some ATI users have had or are getting poor FPS with CFS3/OFF...

Please Vote...and post your PC specs and slider settings too!!!


Ta


WM
 
Count me in the not good results with an ATI video card, even after tweaking. I'm still not giving up yet. The views are great, even if it's with low FPS. I'm running in the 7-12 FPS with an ATI 3870X2 overclocked card.

Kevin
 
Count me in the not good results with an ATI video card, even after tweaking. I'm still not giving up yet. The views are great, even if it's with low FPS. I'm running in the 7-12 FPS with an ATI 3870X2 overclocked card.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin - can you quote your PC spec and Slider settings too please sorry I have added that to my post above - quite NB for me.

WM
 
Only made two flights in BHaH yet, but everything's fine so far.
My card: Radeon X 1900
 
Things are great with me so far.

AMD Dual Core Opteron 180 (slight overclock to 2.64GHz)
1 Gig Ram
ATI X1950Pro PCIe
Sliders: 5,3,3,4,2
Using tweaks as per in FAQ for ATI users
Running modified CFS3.exe tuned to single core.
FPS locked in at 30 (adjustment).

...get a FPS knockdown around airfields (to 17-20 FPS, but otherwise pretty much stable at 30 FPS).
 
No Problems with ATI

I appreciate all of the helpful tweaking advice from Redwolf and LeBlaque and am running 18-20 FPS sitting on the airfield and 35-40 in flight with 4-3-3-4-3 slider settings running at 1600X1024 (default resolution for my Samsung 204B LCD monitor).

Curiously enough, I've tried different combinations of all of the tweaks and they actually slowed my performance about 5 fps. The only adjustment I've made is to set MaxFPS=40 in the cfs.xml file, and let Catalyst 9.1 manage my game settings of AA=2 and AF=4 (I gain 2-3 FPS by letting Catalyst manage things, oddly enough). The game looks stunning at those settings.

My rig:
ASUS A8232-MVP with NorthBridge overclocked to 1375 MHz
Corsair 2GB TWINX2048-4400PRO running at stock 275MHz
AMD Opteron 185 Dual Processor overclocked to 3.0 GHz
ATI HD 4870 on stock settings
Who says these old 939 socket systems are out of date? Mine provides 3DMark06 scores of 12,000, which is good enough to max out most games.

I'm currently setting up my CH controllers and having a great time trying to stay alive.

BirdDogICT
 
I'm running Sapphire Radeon HD3850 w 512mb vram. Soyo Dragon II mobo, Intel P4 3.2 GHZ, 2 GB ram. I am lucky to get double digits in the FPS (14 - 18) but average about 9. Drops to half over multiple airfields, and highest in blue skies with three or fewer planes in the air.

I can tell you that I had to replace m ICEQ X1950 with this card in P2 and noticed a decrease in performance. I think if I still had the X1950, I'd have better results. I'm also positive that the video card and ATI's drivers are the culprit more so than P3's load and if I had just about any other card than the HD3850, I'd get better results. It's a good card for other games but crappy for MS products it seems. I am going to upgrade CPU, Mobo, Ram and vid card in the near future, but till then will deal with what I have.

If you feel somthing must be done, then perhaps some mode of scaling back in workshop things like airfield or frontline activity. IRC, this was mentioned early in development and there is some now, though I don't dare use it. But, I would also say not to go to great lengths to change your mod to chase a poor video card option.

All that being said, I will say that when scenery optimization was promised and delivered, I assumed it to mean better or comparable scenery to P2 with less load. The scenery in P3 is wonderful as is the whole mod (I particularly liked the inclusion of airfield transfer missions) but it appears to me that our lowest setting is like a short range 4 in P2. Our only option lower (setting 1 for scenery and terrain) is like flying in the sahara desert. I'd rather enjoy the scenery at low FPS than no scenery at all. It's so vital to the immersion, but believe me when I say it's stunning enough for me to spend another 500.00 to upgrade purely to enjoy P3. I fear that minimal settings and their accompanying loads could put some people off and I'd like to see OBD get maximum sales out of this.

Now, back to St. Pol....Thanks:ernae:
 
Thanks Kevin - can you quote your PC spec and Slider settings too please sorry I have added that to my post above - quite NB for me.

WM

Sure!

My system: CPU E8400 Wolfdale C2D 3.0 overclocked to 3.5 Ghz, 4 gigs of OCZ Reaper DDR2 1066 memory overclocked, Gigabyte X48 DS4 motherboard, PC Power & Cooling PSU 750w, ASUS HD3870X2 1Gig memory video card (both chip & memory overclocked), XP Pro SP3. Cpu temps run 28-32 C at idle, 45 with heavy usage. All this is viewed on a 26" Westinghouse LCD monitor at 1900 X 1200 X 32 bit. The refresh rate is set to the default 60 Hz. I use CCC to overclock the GPU and video card memory. I have the CCC ATI 8.10 drivers installed. I downloaded the 9.1 drivers but haven't installed them. I'm waiting for others to try them first!

CFS3/OFF BHAH settings: 4 5 4 4 5 3

I have applied all the ATI tweaks as outlined in the two or more threads here. I didn't disable chat, advisor messages or simulation warnings.

Hope this helps.

Kevin :d
 
I downloaded the 9.1 drivers but haven't installed them. I'm waiting for others to try them first!


Just installed the new 9.1's today (previously 8.11's). No ill effects...perhaps even a very modest gain in fps.
 
I have around 20 fps over cities and airfields, and 30 to50 fps anywhere over the countryside and up at 3000 to 6000 ft. Haven`t been higher yet.
Sliders are set to : 5-5-5-3-3-3.

quadcore q6600
4 gig ram
win xp home Sp 3
ATI radeon 4870 512mb

at 1680x1050
 
I have all sliders on '1' except for aircraft, which is '4', and I get what I consider to be reasonable FPS for the low-spec PC that I have - mostly 15+ at low altitude and 20+ otherwise (I have it capped at 20 now, but before that I had 15 -30 and it was a bit choppy). The big exception is, of course, still airfields - if one is in sight at low alt. my FPS will go down to 8-10, and at medium alt. 10-15. If more than one airfield is in my field of vision then there appears to be a further cumulative effect, taking another 2-3 FPS off for each extra airfield.

I use all the tweaks that have been suggested, and I also use FSAutostart to close down all unnecessary background programs and also to defragment memory before launching OFF (this gives me about 5 FPS more on what I would have otherwise). I also have TrackIR on. Monitor at 1280 1024 60 hz (native res.) 16 bpp colour (I initially tried 32 Bpp, but I 'think' I get a slight FPS advantage by setting it at 16 Bpp).

Athlon 64 3400+, 1 GB RAM, 128MB ATI 9800 Pro, Win XP SP3

Landings are difficult, combat can also slow things down, but nevertheless it is just playable in most circumstances :)

Bletchley
 
Trying to help here. Many may already know this and these suggestions are likely mentioned elsewhere as well, but here goes:

Some tips besides the setting adjustments as mentioned in the FAQ for those having issues and trying to grab a couple more fps:

If you already are playing with high resolution, turn off or lower your AA settings on your card. It's not really necessary to AA much (or at all) with high resolution anyway (you shouldn't really notice that much of a difference), and the extra processing power you give to your GPU by lowering it or scaling it down may actually help.

Try experimenting with different screen resolutions. The rule of thumb that the higher the resolution, the better it runs for CFS3/OFF may not be the case for you. For me, the sweet spot is actually quite a bit lower than my monitor will allow (1280x960). Going higher than this negatively impacts my FPS and I get no benefit going lower than this resolution, in my case...may be the same with you.

Turn off unneeded and extra processes running in the background. A utility like End-It-All 2 or FSautostart can really help in this regard.

If your card supports it, and you are comfortable doing it, try a modest overclock of your graphics card using the ATI overdrive in your catalyst control center. Just tried a modest overclock yesterday, and got perhaps a 3-5% increase in FPS (every little bit counts). Careful with this though, as it can create an unstable system and will increase the heat of your GPU - test thoroughly beforehand and I suggest trying small increases first.

Again if you are comfortable, try overclocking your cpu. Some cpu's and systems overclock better than others. Same cautions apply as GPU overclock. Small steps first, I suggest...and test thoroughly.

Fly a different aircraft. Some are harder on FPS than others. For example, you'll get higher fps with a DH-2 then you will with a Bristol F2b (both in cockpit and outside). If you are desperate, though I don't recommend it personally as it ruins the immersion for me, fly with the cockpit off.

Make sure you have a nice clean install of your video card drivers. When updating drivers, parts of the older drivers will often be left over and can cause problems with newer drivers. Make sure the old driver is completely uninstalled first before installing a newer drivers. Various utilities on the internet, such as "Driver Cleaner" help to completely remove all artifacts of old drivers before new ones are installed.

Hope some of these tips are helpful.
 
Intel E8400 3Ghz 4GB RAM sapphire radeon 4850 512 Mb mainboard asus P5QL pro. Sliders 5 5 4 4 5 5. frames are ok once in the air 20 -39 ,BUT vary a lot.critical is the start where it totally drops down to 5. TweakingTips did no good for me.
 
Start on the field will always be a lot slower fps than in the air, unavoidable, lots of big close models, textures, smoke etc .. this is really about once up in the air as you spend 98 % of your time there hopefully ;)
 
That's right of course.And looking at my slider settings i still get good fps.just tried to set Frame max limit to 40.It helped.Starting with 17 frames min for me now.Great. Have a good night Pol
 
As I posted previously, I used all of Redwolf and LeBlaque's changes. A couple of days ago I also changed the FPS setting from 30 to 40 as someone else above mentioned. The increase in frame rates was amazing! With all these combined changes my rig is running OFF smooth as silk!

Falcon-NW Fragbox 2, Vista 32-bit OS, 4MB RAM, ATI Palit Radeon 4850 GC. I've changed NO settings in the ATI Catalyst Controls.
 
Don't have exact FPS numbers, but quite decent FPS after tweaking. Prior to tweaking, it was unplayable as it was just a slide show whenever I looked around with TrackIR.

With tweaked settings have flown a couple campaign missions and had a few dogfights on QC (up to 10 aircraft) with no game breaking stutters.

Sliders: 5 5 4 3 4 4
Res: 1920 x 1440
CPU: Athlon 64 3800+
GPU: X1950 Pro (AGP)
RAM: 2 gigs
 
thanks redwolf....best suggestion yet for me was your's....turn off anti-aliasing. It's been a mantra that max aa meant cleaner lines for as long as I can remember......but, thanks to your radical suggestion that the monitor resolution resoves those issues, the stuff looks better and plays faster than ever, I've even gone so far as to go back to "use application settings" rather than the card's custom settings w/ no loss in picture and 5 to 10 average fps boost.....made all the difference in OFF. Got a nice wide screen moni that supports 1680 X 1050 and ALL the apps....CFS3, Solomons, ETO, OFF look EXTRAORDINARY!!!! Thanks again......GAW
 
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