i see the words boring and other things in this thread,,,,as someone who can accually do this ( me),,,id like to see you do it and not crash.....i wrecked many cars learning car control as did ken block im sure...this kind of driving is a blast,we did the thing with a girl on a 10 gallon paint bucket in a bikini and we could head straight for her at about 60 miles an hour and then do donughts around her with the nose of the car less than an inch from the bucket.....she fell on my hood one day and i thought id killed her for sure...she stopped wearing bikinis after that too...got skined up pretty good...