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Captain Sim 757 VC problems

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jimjones

SOH-CM-2023
Having difficulty with Captain Sim 751 autopilot, a/p console, HDI and HSI displays.

I start with the FSX CRJ700 jet on the ground, engines running.
All vc crt displays ok.

Switch to the 751.

The vc ADI and HSI displays show only sparce incomplete info.
Example:No attutude diplay in ADI.

No vertical speed numbers show in autopilot console.

Can't turn on autopilot via console.

Z key turns on autopilot but autopilot actions not working.
Such as heading and altitude hold.

z key again then gets warning sound and voice indication that autopilot is off.

Console disengage button does not get warning sound and voice indication after z key turns autopilot on.

Buttons on VC autopilot don't light up when pressed. Should they?

Either I'm missing an important action or there is an install problem
with a newly installed fsx 751.

Anyone having these problems or able to verify their csp751_4200.exe download is working ok?

Comments and recommendations, please.

I see that Captain Sim is taking a few days off (no customer support).
Jim
 
What happens if you press the CMD button on the panel, rather than pressing Z?

It's unlikely that I'll be in a position to fire up the B75 and take a look until tomorrow evening, unfortunately, but if you haven't found a solution by then, I'll see what I can do.

Ian P.
 
Thanks Ian for responding.

Nothing happens when pressing any of the 3 CMD ( L C R) buttons. They don't light up either. I'll go back and try again, but it seems I've tried that in combo with other keys.

Jim
 
Attached 2 pics, one of the sparce info in the adi and hsi screens. The second shows the blank vertical speed setting.

Also while flying the 757, I switched planes, set an alt hold, switched back to the 757, pressed z and the 757 held to that alt even tho the a/p alt setting on the 757 was different.
 
You haven't prepped the overhead properly - the IRU's (Inertial Reference System/Units) need to be set to "NAV" to get any life out of the autopilot or the displays. They'll take a minute or so to align, then you should get a lot more life.

They're up the top left of the overhead - three rotary switches with a rows of lights above them.

Ian P.
 
Thanks Ian, I suspected there was some key element I was missing. Will give it a try later when I get back from church tonight.

Happy New Year.

This is such a great place, with great folks and great knowledge. You of course are part of that.

Jim
 
Go to the overhead panel (shft 6) on the left top you´ll find the switches to turn on the ADI and HSI displays, I put two on on nav and the other on ATF, this also made the autopilot operable! I am too lazy to read any manuals, so I usually go for "trial and error" methods and made it work this way!:icon_lol:

Hope it helps!

Alex
 
grunau_baby said:
I am too lazy to read any manuals, so I usually go for "trial and error" methods and made it work this way!:icon_lol:

Hope it helps!

Alex
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That is funny. I can usually get anything working without reading the manual unless it comes to the dreaded FMC. Then I'm afraid even after reading the manual I still can't get those things to work properly.:isadizzy:

Then without that thing set up properly, it's time to go back to a GA plane :costumes:
 
Do I have to do the same with you as I did with Nick and the Leonardo Mad-Dog? Sit in front of Skype and tell you exactly which buttons to press to make it work? :icon_lol:

Ian P.
 
In my defence I have no interest in tubeliners and simply needed it turned on for the review pictures, why would I read a manual for that? I ain't writing the reviews :a1310: :costumes:
 
Setting those Inertial Reference System/Units knobs first to Align, then to NAV did awaken the HSI and ADI screens and allowed activation of the Autopilot via first (L) CMD button.

I'm getting a wild ride after turning on the A/P.

I began a new flight: select 751 plane, airport & runway and time.

While on the ground, set each of the 3 knobs to Align then Nav. HSI and ADI screens became active.

Plane heading at 345.

A/P heading set at 360 (0) and auto bank

A/P alt set at 10,000

A/P IAS set at 200

Set flaps, released brakes, full power.

Gear up at 1000', flaps up at 3000'

IAS showed about 150

At this point CMD was pressed and that light illuminated.

Also the V/S light was illuminated and the vertical speed was automatically set to +1600

The heading hold light also automatically turned on.

Shortly afterward (2 sec) the plane began to bank wildly back and forth, 1.5 notches on the ADI with a full cycle right to left and back every 4 sec or so. The yoke moves corresponding to the banking.

The plane continues to climb at about 150 knts and about 10,000 ft the V/S light goes off, the altitude hold light comes on, a light on the altimiter briefly comes on as the plane passes thru the 10,000 ft setting and the plane continues gaining altitude without abating.

I did not expect the wild bank gyration and expected the autopilot to hold the 10,000 ft alt.

Must press disengage A/P button to stop gyration.

Would appreciate a little more help. I've been thru the manuals but can't seem to grasp what might be wrong.

Ian, is your review available for anyone to read? Where?
 
The thing I never enjoyed about flying the default "tubes", is that it was BORING and no challange at all. If you wanted to go about it realistically, aside form weather briefing and route planning.. and realistic loading..you had to "fake" needing any piloting skill. Except for landing of course. Getting even the default tubes from FL330 down to a gate (in a manner that wouldn't have the virtual FAA revoking you pilots license.. the Airline sending you maintanance bills.. and your virtual passengers swearing off air-travel forever) DOES take quite a bit of piloting.

ANYway.. what I really like about this model, is that if you start "cold-n-dark", you've got a neat little routine to go through. You can't just fire it up and go... and i really enjoy that. And even with the FMC handling the flying.. there is SO much about it to learn.. both in programming it, and using it en-route.. that even buzzing along on A/P you have plenty to keep you realistically busy. For the firt time ever.. I'm enjoying tube flying ..

:wiggle:
 
jimjones... All I can tell you is what I did.. A lot of how the FMC handles the climb and such, is determined by how you program it. Load data, performance data.. route data.. and more. There are several screens and gobs of information to enter/confirm.

I ran FSX in windowed mode, so that I could have the manual up for reference.. and then went through it all (several times.. page by page), until it all started making sense. This bird just does not lend itself well to "seat of the pants" flying.
 
Brett_Henderson said:
jimjones... All I can tell you is what I did.. A lot of how the FMC handles the climb and such, is determined by how you program it. Load data, performance data.. route data.. and more. There are several screens and gobs of information to enter/confirm.

I ran FSX in windowed mode, so that I could have the manual up for reference.. and then went through it all (several times.. page by page), until it all started making sense. This bird just does not lend itself well to "seat of the pants" flying.
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I'm used to the FSX default planes, so the b757 is quite an eye opener as to what a real pilot must do. I don't have enough years left to learn all that is needed and not enough incentive. I don't want to go thru entering the info for a full flight. Seems there should be a setup that would allow one to use the autopilot independant of FMC. I've not even looked at the FMC or know what it does. Oh well, I can fly without the autopilot but it sure would be more fun to use it in a mode not linked to the FMC. If there is a way do run autopilot independant of the FMC I sure would like to know. Perhaps my problems is that it is on and conflicts with the A/P settings.

I've also used FSX in windowed mode and the manuals in the background. There is a huge amount of info in the manuals and acronyms I never seen before. Unfortunately I've found no glossary in the manuals.
 
Only the VNAV and LNAV functions of the autopilot care at all about the FMS - all other modes are entirely independent and are controlled using the glareshield panel. Any airliner can be flown from after takeoff to a manual landing without touching the FMS at all.

If you can still download the manual for the LDS767 without buying it first (you could for a while before release, at least) then that is an identical flight management and autoflight system to the B757 and included a couple of good tutorials. You might want to have a look for it.

Cheers,

Ian P.
 
I'll be honest.. I thought about going into the panel.cfg and "dissabling" the A/P and FMC... and then placing a default A/P in there (and prob will eventually). I agree.. it would be nice to fly this model as hassel-free as the default tubes (which sadly means I'd grow tired of it quickly)...

Mean time.. if you enter the bare minimum data.. you "can" fly it more simply, but the A/P functions differently than we're used to. I haven't done it enough to post data (I'm too busy learning the FMC.lol), but I have gotten it to hold altitude and airspeed. It will hold heading too, when you're trying to ignore the FMC..but not the dialed in heading. From what little I've learned.. you'll have to disengage the A/P, and make a manual turn to the new heading, and then re-engage it. A similar short-cut works for altitudes. Ignore the dialed in altitude and just enter a vertical speed (with the V/S button actice).. and then reduce V/S to zero when you want to level off.

I doubt that's how it's done for real. I guess that making the FMC so realistic takes its toll here.

ANYway... dont give up on total FMC use.. it is UTTERLY amazing, and makes even the cruise part of tube flying fun..
 
Oh.. and Ian is probably correct. There probably is a way to get the A/P to function normally.. I just haven't figured it out yet.. It just seems like the FMC (FMS) doesn't like to let you use all the A/P functions without it being involved..lol
 
I would seriously recommend looking up or downloading a tutorial for either the PMDG B747-400 or LDS B767-300. The autoflight systems are pretty much identical on all three aircraft, so if you can understand one then it's just a case of reading the bits of the manual on how to control the actual buttons on the others.

Ian P.
 
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