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Captain Sim 757 VC problems

Yes, Ian, I need manuals that describe procedures better and tutorials would be very helpful. I'll look into those you mentioned.

Since I have neither vnav or lnav key button pushed and on and those indications don't show in the hsi or adi displays I should be able to fly auto pilot independant of the FMS as you indicated. But that being the case I still cannot lock to speed with autothrottle on, or an altitude. The gyration is completly mind boggling and very disrupting to any attemps to properly fly the plane. There seems to be no reason for it to be so dramatic in seeking a heading. The gyration occurs with the heading hold on or off.
 
I ported the fs9 757 and works better than my just purchased 757 for fsx. Got excited during the sale and bought the fsx version :icon_lol:

David :kilroy:
 
Thanks for the links to manuals, gents. You're help is much appreciated.

What really stands out in your responses is the need for fsuipc. I have not seen that as a requirement for cs757 in the specs. That very well could be the problem if it indeed is required. I've avoided using fsuipc, having read in the past some of the warnings and possible conflicts it may cause, all of which I've forgotten since its been years since reviewing them.

I've not yet used the cs forum, so that is my next place to visit to see about fsuipc.
 
jimjones said:
I've not yet used the cs forum, so that is my next place to visit to see about fsuipc.
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Please take note, I believe fsuipc 4.4 for FSX was part of the install of the 757 200 if I recall correctly. Check the CS 757 support forum.

Consult the CS support where you can get manuals to download and the forum where you can get great info and a tutorial thread on the 757 200 FMC ---- 757-200 FMC Tutorial (Read 2029 times) ------- and save it as a webpage or perhaps a pdf.

Steady on, we'll make progress, can't get it all done in a day, eh?
 
They have the manuals for the 757 at CS. You have to log in and give your order number and some other crap but it will lead you to the down loads. Got my today but have not looked at em. Also the FSX 757 takes a bigger hit on FPS then the ported FS9 757. I thought it would be better but it's snot.:icon_lol:

David :kilroy:
 
The B757 manuals themselves are pretty good - the problem when I did the review (http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/cs_757_review.htm) was the total lack of a tutorial. I didn't know one had been released, so hence my pointing at places that did! ;)

Logging in to CS is "your order number and e-mail address" if I remember correctly from downloading the C130 manuals a few nights back. Hardly difficult! Finding things once you are in is a little more awkward - you have to click on the order number for the appropriate package and then down the bottom of that page there's a manuals link. Their support system could definitely be a little more intuitive to use, but it is mainly all there.

I wonder whether Navigraph have got back to them yet. When I last spoke to anyone from CS after we published the review, they had sent their format info to Navigraph and heard nothing back, I believe. The situation may have changed since then, as it was some time ago.

Ian P.
 
@jimjones,

You wrote; gear up at 1000ft, flaps up at 3000ft, speed 150kts. (The gear should be retracted as soon as the plane is climbing, e.g. latest at 100ft!)
Well at THAT speed with flaps up you are WAY too slow.
The autopilot can't cope with the plane almost stalling and the symptoms you are describing are typical for a stall.
Without flaps I'd never fly slower than 220kts.
Check the fuel on board. If you are very heavy you might need to fly even faster.

You don't need FSUIPC, I don't use it either.
You don't need to program the FMC (also not required IRL)
Just align the 3 IRS and that's it.

@ brett_henderson

The shortest visual traffic pattern I managed to fly with a jet airliner took me 2.5min (IRL!) in the sim even less ;)
So much for boring tubes ;)
 
Wily. I have checked and there is an fsuipc4.dll in my modules directory, dated 11/13/2008. I suspect the cs757 install put it there.

I've read thru some of the posts in the cs Pilots Lounge. Seems there have been several reports of problems similar to mine where the plane rocks, altitude and speed do not hold etc. A general autopilot failure. Some have indicated fsuipc solved their problem. Since fsuipc4 resides in my modules folder, that is not my solution. There seems to be other issues.

Brett. I've done the 3 IRS align, go to 350 knts level flight and cannot even control with the simplest autothrottle control. Once activating autopilot via cmd the violent rocking begins and no a/p functions work. If fsuipc is not used for these functions its presence should not be a problem.

The cs757 seems to use the cmd and disconnect buttons for a/p control. I've avoided using the z key which seems to not function the same as the cmd and disconnect buttons.

Until I get a/p to work it is not much point trying the more sophisticated cs757 functions.

Pretty much confounded at this point.:isadizzy:
 
I've now read thru most of the post on cs Pilots Lounge related to the AP not working and violent reocking. Seems too many (experienced 757 users too) are having the problems with no apparent solutions. There seems to be a rant to have cs fix it.

So I will fly manually and try to enjoy the good looking exteriors and interiors until a fix becomes available.

I appreciate all the comments in this thread. Thanks again.

Jim
 
@ brett_henderson

The shortest visual traffic pattern I managed to fly with a jet airliner took me 2.5min (IRL!) in the sim even less ;)
So much for boring tubes ;)<!-- / message -->
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Oh.. don't get me wrong.. wrestling a tube around can be a blast. And like I pointed out.. getting one from an airport; up to altitude, and then back to a runway is quite a challenge ( if you do it realistically.. no in-flight maneuvers that would scare you pax to death.. an approach/landing that won't have them holding their breath.. not to mention having an FAA guy wanting to talk to you..lol .. and make you a standing joke of the maintanence guys).. I mean, it REALLY takes a lot of skill and attention to detail during a descent and turn to final .. there's a LOT going on (almost too much for one pilot)(especially if you're IMC).

I do a flight-school thing at another forum.. I get a kick out of the posters (instant airline captains) who come in and ask things like, "How can I get lined up with the runway, in the 737 ?".. or any of those general, "How do I land a big jet ?", questions.. when a quick Q&A reveals that they don't even grasp the basic concepts of piloting. "If you can't fly a dead-accurate pattern in a C172, and have the approach stabilized enough to watch the runway come to you, pretty much hands-off the yoke.. How in the heck do you expect to be landing a big jet ? "...

Sorry.. I digress.. Yeah, tubes can be fun, but realistic operations (with default tubes), can get a little boring. This 757 has been as much fun as I've had in a sim plane, in a long time :mixedsmi:

Brett. I've done the 3 IRS align, go to 350 knts level flight and cannot even control with the simplest autothrottle control. Once activating autopilot via cmd the violent rocking begins and no a/p functions work. If fsuipc is not used for these functions its presence should not be a problem.
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I've been to the CS forums too, and I haven't experienced any of those problems. The nearest to them would be (because I'm still learning to program/control FMS descents) the A/P disengage problem. They said something about going back to an older version of FSIUPC, but I'm finding that it's more a problem of "push buttons first", and THEN try to figure out what you've done. If you just punch the disengage button, and try to fly.. yeah, it get's dicey, because you almost have to wrestle the plane away from the now, de-activated A/P. If you methodically turn all the funcions off (A/T, F/D, etc.) and then disengage by the big button, control returns to you, albeit you have to deflect the controls a little.. like to "break" it free (rudder causes the least, passenger fright..lol).

I'm going be testing/learning all day today.. so I'll report back more info, as I garner it. I do remember that the methodical turning off of the functions and then turning off the A/P by the CMD button seemed to give the plane back to you with little fuss (but i can't swear to it).

Lastly.. yeah.. it's annoying that you can't just ignore the FMS and use the A/P like you think it SHOULD be able to be used. .. i.e.. turn it on.. dial in heading, airspeed, altitude and have it all work. If I figure out how to do that.. I'll report back ASAP
 
You can do that - it just behaves properly, rather than like the pretty poor representation of an autopilot in the default airliners. You just need to learn how to use it.

Turning on CMD just engages the autopilot. You have to set what you want on the autopilot, then engage the mode. I would seriously recommend using FL CH (Flight Level Change) to move from one altitude to another, rather than Vertical Speed mode, as this will control speed as well as pitch.

Activating HDG HOLD on the CS B757 is a bit of a pain, but it can be done.

Ian P.
 
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