Well, we're back discussing this thing again because I used Shift+e+2 to open the rear canopy, and it did open - but now the rear canopy refuses to close! While riding with the windows down can sometimes provide a bracing breeze to stimulate you, this is carrying things a little far. This is convincing me the problem lies somewhere in the panel config file. I saw in the first thread someone wrote in saying it might be a conflict with a gauge somewhere in the panel.cfg file. Can anyone provide a hint about what gauge I need to be looking at maybe commenting out?:ques:
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CaptSim TF-104 canopies Mark II
- Thread starter SSI01
- Start date
After reading your thread the other day I went and played around with my TF-104, the canopies stubbornly insisted on working properly.
Assuming you are using the unaldulterated original panel configs (you are, aren't you?), then it seems unlikely that a gauge in your 104 panel is to blame.
At this point I'm curious as to the circumstances in which this problem occurs. Are you loading the aircraft into the same flight each time the canopy fails? Does it ever, or has it ever worked right?
Assuming you are using the unaldulterated original panel configs (you are, aren't you?), then it seems unlikely that a gauge in your 104 panel is to blame.
At this point I'm curious as to the circumstances in which this problem occurs. Are you loading the aircraft into the same flight each time the canopy fails? Does it ever, or has it ever worked right?
I've flown the thing (TF) in various forms in every air arm there's a texture for. Never had a problem with the single-seat version. Have flown TF in (or rather over) Germany, Norway, Italy, the U.S. Different load configurations, too. In the past I've always used the shift+e+2 for the rear seat in the TF and when it didn't work I figured it just wasn't programmed into the config file, or air file or whatever. When I actually got it to work (once) a couple of weeks ago, I figured "Neat!" and began trying it in earnest. Ever since then I've repeated - repeated - repeated - repeated Shift+e+2. Even changed the config file when it worked once after I had typed the change in. Now it appears it doesn't matter, Shift+e+2 is it no matter what I put in the config - except it doesn't work for me. Hoodoo?
The aircraft has been in my sim thru a couple of computer crashes. I've noted when rebuilding the sim after these crashes I can have texture folders in some of my aircraft files, yet the config file will be missing the appropriate entries for those textures. This makes me wonder if somehow the panel or aircraft config files have become corrupted during one of these crashes. I finally bought an external hard drive where I have every single aircraft master file (stock or add-on) stored, along with all add-on textures. This seems to have solved the crash problem.
Here's my panel config:
[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=Icons
Window02=Radio Stack
Window03=Overhead Panel
Window04=Autopilot Panel
Window05=Warning Panel
Window06=Radar
Window07=GPS
Window08=BRAKE
Fixed Window20=Forward Right
Fixed Window21=Right
Fixed Window22=Rear Right
Fixed Window23=Rear Left
Fixed Window24=Left
Fixed Window25=Forward Left
[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,OVERHEAD_PANEL,GPS_PANEL,10000,10100,10200,11000
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=6.5, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=20,11000
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 45.0
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=21,11000
VIEW_RIGHT_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 90.0
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_RIGHT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=22,11000
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 135.0
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_EYE=2.0, 0.0, -1.0
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=23,11000
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 225.0
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=0.80
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_EYE=-2.0, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=24,11000
VIEW_LEFT_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 270.0
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_LEFT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=25,11000
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_DIR=4.0, -2.0, 315.0
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
[Window00]
file=bg.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
position=7
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
render_3d_window=1
gauge00=cs_f104!main_panel, 0,0,1024,768
gauge01=cs_f104!Pric, 474,288,77,77
[Window01]
background_color=64,64,64
size_mm=42,206
position=8
visible=1
ident=11000
gauge00=cs_f104!Icons, 0,0,42,206
[Window02]
Background_color=64,64,64
size_mm=223,437
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
window_size= 0.218, 0.569
window_pos= 0.000, 0.125
gauge00=cs_f104!RADIO, 0,0,223,437
[Window03]
Background_color=128,128,128
size_mm=1024,96
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=OVERHEAD_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 0.125
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=cs_f104!Overhead, 0,0,1024,96
[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=223,158
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=10100
window_size= 0.218, 0.207
window_pos= 0.000, 0.694
gauge00=cs_f104!AP, 0,0,223,158
[Window05]
Background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=223,271
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=10200
window_size= 0.218, 0.353
window_pos= 0.782, 0.125
gauge00=cs_f104!Tablo, 0,0,223,271
[Window06]
background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=223,333
window_pos= 0.742, 0.56
visible=0
ident=10000
gauge00=cs_f104!Radar, 0,0,223,333
[Window07]
size_mm=223,333
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
gauge00=gps!gps,0,0,223,333
[Window08]
size_mm=210,40
window_pos= 0.000, 0.90
BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0
VISIBLE=1
ident=11123
gauge00=cs104sbd!brake,0,0
[Fixed Window20]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=20
gauge00 = cs_f104!View45,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!045, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window21]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=21
gauge00 = cs_f104!View90,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!090, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window22]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=22
gauge00 = cs_f104!View135,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!135, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window23]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=23
gauge00 = cs_f104!View225,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!225, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window24]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=24
gauge00 = cs_f104!View270,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!270, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window25]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=25
gauge00 = cs_f104!View315,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!315, 0,0,1024,768
[VCockpit01]
file=panel1.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel1
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
//gauge00=cs_f104!vc_panel, 0, 0,1024,672
gauge00=cs_f104!vc_panel, 0, 20,1024,650
[VCockpit02]
file=panel2.bmp
size_mm=256,512
pixel_size=256,512
texture=$panel2
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!VC_Panel2,93,72,110,184
[VCockpit03]
file=panel3.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel3
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!RadarVc, 380,46,266,340
gauge01=cs_f104!VC_Panel3,47,11,220,100
gauge02=cs_f104!VC_Panel_Weapon,30,109,145,174
gauge03=cs_f104!VC_Panel_Fuel,972,250,50,75
[VCockpit04]
file=panel4.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel4
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!TabloVc, 30,219,333,270
gauge01=cs_f104!VC_Panel4_1,68,92,300,120
gauge02=cs_f104!VC_Panel4_2,32,602,600,240
[VCockpit05]
file=panel5.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel5
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!APVc, 260,117,750,130
[VCockpit06]
file=panel6.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel6
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!RADIOVC, -5,140,700,420
[Vcockpit07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=512,1024
texture=$panel0
gauge00=cs_f104!Pric, 150,110,200,570
[Color]
Day=255,255,255
Night=4,4,4
Luminous=128,0,0
[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6144
I can send the aircraft config as well, if needed, for comparison purposes.
:mixedsmi:
The aircraft has been in my sim thru a couple of computer crashes. I've noted when rebuilding the sim after these crashes I can have texture folders in some of my aircraft files, yet the config file will be missing the appropriate entries for those textures. This makes me wonder if somehow the panel or aircraft config files have become corrupted during one of these crashes. I finally bought an external hard drive where I have every single aircraft master file (stock or add-on) stored, along with all add-on textures. This seems to have solved the crash problem.
Here's my panel config:
[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=Icons
Window02=Radio Stack
Window03=Overhead Panel
Window04=Autopilot Panel
Window05=Warning Panel
Window06=Radar
Window07=GPS
Window08=BRAKE
Fixed Window20=Forward Right
Fixed Window21=Right
Fixed Window22=Rear Right
Fixed Window23=Rear Left
Fixed Window24=Left
Fixed Window25=Forward Left
[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,OVERHEAD_PANEL,GPS_PANEL,10000,10100,10200,11000
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=6.5, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=20,11000
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 45.0
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=21,11000
VIEW_RIGHT_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 90.0
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_RIGHT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=22,11000
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 135.0
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_EYE=2.0, 0.0, -1.0
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=23,11000
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 225.0
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=0.80
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_EYE=-2.0, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=24,11000
VIEW_LEFT_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 270.0
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_LEFT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=25,11000
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_DIR=4.0, -2.0, 315.0
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_EYE=0.0, 0.0, 2.0
[Window00]
file=bg.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
position=7
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
render_3d_window=1
gauge00=cs_f104!main_panel, 0,0,1024,768
gauge01=cs_f104!Pric, 474,288,77,77
[Window01]
background_color=64,64,64
size_mm=42,206
position=8
visible=1
ident=11000
gauge00=cs_f104!Icons, 0,0,42,206
[Window02]
Background_color=64,64,64
size_mm=223,437
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
window_size= 0.218, 0.569
window_pos= 0.000, 0.125
gauge00=cs_f104!RADIO, 0,0,223,437
[Window03]
Background_color=128,128,128
size_mm=1024,96
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=OVERHEAD_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 0.125
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=cs_f104!Overhead, 0,0,1024,96
[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=223,158
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=10100
window_size= 0.218, 0.207
window_pos= 0.000, 0.694
gauge00=cs_f104!AP, 0,0,223,158
[Window05]
Background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=223,271
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=10200
window_size= 0.218, 0.353
window_pos= 0.782, 0.125
gauge00=cs_f104!Tablo, 0,0,223,271
[Window06]
background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=223,333
window_pos= 0.742, 0.56
visible=0
ident=10000
gauge00=cs_f104!Radar, 0,0,223,333
[Window07]
size_mm=223,333
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
gauge00=gps!gps,0,0,223,333
[Window08]
size_mm=210,40
window_pos= 0.000, 0.90
BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0
VISIBLE=1
ident=11123
gauge00=cs104sbd!brake,0,0
[Fixed Window20]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=20
gauge00 = cs_f104!View45,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!045, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window21]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=21
gauge00 = cs_f104!View90,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!090, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window22]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=22
gauge00 = cs_f104!View135,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!135, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window23]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=23
gauge00 = cs_f104!View225,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!225, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window24]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=24
gauge00 = cs_f104!View270,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!270, 0,0,1024,768
[Fixed Window25]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
//position=7
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
window_size=1.000, 1.000
ident=25
gauge00 = cs_f104!View315,0,740,5,5
gauge01 = cs_f104.view!315, 0,0,1024,768
[VCockpit01]
file=panel1.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel1
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
//gauge00=cs_f104!vc_panel, 0, 0,1024,672
gauge00=cs_f104!vc_panel, 0, 20,1024,650
[VCockpit02]
file=panel2.bmp
size_mm=256,512
pixel_size=256,512
texture=$panel2
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!VC_Panel2,93,72,110,184
[VCockpit03]
file=panel3.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel3
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!RadarVc, 380,46,266,340
gauge01=cs_f104!VC_Panel3,47,11,220,100
gauge02=cs_f104!VC_Panel_Weapon,30,109,145,174
gauge03=cs_f104!VC_Panel_Fuel,972,250,50,75
[VCockpit04]
file=panel4.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel4
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!TabloVc, 30,219,333,270
gauge01=cs_f104!VC_Panel4_1,68,92,300,120
gauge02=cs_f104!VC_Panel4_2,32,602,600,240
[VCockpit05]
file=panel5.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel5
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!APVc, 260,117,750,130
[VCockpit06]
file=panel6.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel6
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=cs_f104!RADIOVC, -5,140,700,420
[Vcockpit07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=512,1024
texture=$panel0
gauge00=cs_f104!Pric, 150,110,200,570
[Color]
Day=255,255,255
Night=4,4,4
Luminous=128,0,0
[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6144
I can send the aircraft config as well, if needed, for comparison purposes.
:mixedsmi:
Your panel config looks like mine except for one strange difference.
In window01 (icons) the gauge entry is something I've not noticed before: gauge00=cs_f104!Icons, 0,0,42,206,Voice
Don't know what that "voice" entry means, I'm sure I didn't put it there, it doesn't appear anywhere else.
When I asked when and how you loaded your TF-104 I was curious if something was lingering in the sim config, but that seems unlikely given the variety of scenarios you've tried it in.
To me this seems like a real mystery, I can't think of a reason for it.
This is my exits entry:
[exits]
number_of_exits = 2
exit_rate.0 = 0.4
exit_rate.1 = 0.4
In window01 (icons) the gauge entry is something I've not noticed before: gauge00=cs_f104!Icons, 0,0,42,206,Voice
Don't know what that "voice" entry means, I'm sure I didn't put it there, it doesn't appear anywhere else.
When I asked when and how you loaded your TF-104 I was curious if something was lingering in the sim config, but that seems unlikely given the variety of scenarios you've tried it in.
To me this seems like a real mystery, I can't think of a reason for it.
This is my exits entry:
[exits]
number_of_exits = 2
exit_rate.0 = 0.4
exit_rate.1 = 0.4
Reckon that's for the IP, beefing at you from the back seat. I wonder what would happen if that were commented out?
Let me check the "config" file for the exits entry.
EDIT: I checked on that "voice" bit - it was missing from my config file, I added it but haven't tried to fly it yet. Will give it a go and see what happens.
Let me check the "config" file for the exits entry.
EDIT: I checked on that "voice" bit - it was missing from my config file, I added it but haven't tried to fly it yet. Will give it a go and see what happens.