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Congrats to Ryan Newman!!
- Thread starter eddie
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Terry
SOH-CM-2016
Really happy for him to win at Indy! He deserved it!!
Yup, and it may help him find a new ride for next year.
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
Yep!
Snoozer of a race but definitely great seeing Ryan in Victory Lane
Snoozer of a race but definitely great seeing Ryan in Victory Lane
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
Need to know what Jimmie's in and out lap speeds where in comparison to Newman before they put blame entirely on Jimmie's pit crew....
Terry
SOH-CM-2016
He finished second, why does there have to be blame. You can't win them all.
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
The announcers have faulted Jimmie's pit crew...
Edit: They said something about the right rear tire changer lost his help...
Hey All,
I just got back from a bluegrass festival.
Forget the in/out speeds - these guys are better than any F1 driver at that.
Johnson's pitstop 17.2 secs taking 4. Newman I've not see a time for but he only took 2. Johnson's crew was a full 4 secs slower than they should have been - the good pit crews even taking 4 are in the 13s and even in the 12s. His pit crew blew it big time. Then to top it off there was no late race caution where Jimmie's taking 4 would have made the difference on a restart. Taking two and trying to stay with somebody who took 4 on a restart is hard at best. Jimmie won this race but was robbed again in terms of his pit crew blowin it and no late race caution.
That is the luck of the race Gods. That said nice to see Ryan in victory lane - Jimmie will get the next one.
-Ed-
I just got back from a bluegrass festival.
Forget the in/out speeds - these guys are better than any F1 driver at that.
Johnson's pitstop 17.2 secs taking 4. Newman I've not see a time for but he only took 2. Johnson's crew was a full 4 secs slower than they should have been - the good pit crews even taking 4 are in the 13s and even in the 12s. His pit crew blew it big time. Then to top it off there was no late race caution where Jimmie's taking 4 would have made the difference on a restart. Taking two and trying to stay with somebody who took 4 on a restart is hard at best. Jimmie won this race but was robbed again in terms of his pit crew blowin it and no late race caution.
That is the luck of the race Gods. That said nice to see Ryan in victory lane - Jimmie will get the next one.
-Ed-
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
This is a totally uncalled for jab here. There's been no blasting or comparison of F1 to NASCAR here.
However, the fact of the matter is that in all forms of racing where pit stops occur, in lap and out lap speeds are part of total time.
Now if you read my previous post, you'll see the "edit" where I acknowledge Jimmie's tire changer issues....
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
Hey All,
That is a big issue on some tracks but not others but only because of the location of the entrance to pit road. It is hard to find a driver who is too careful. That said it would likely only cost a few tenths as the drivers know where their marks are and they practice while what happens in the pits can be in whole seconds as with Jimmie today.
-Ed-
That is a big issue on some tracks but not others but only because of the location of the entrance to pit road. It is hard to find a driver who is too careful. That said it would likely only cost a few tenths as the drivers know where their marks are and they practice while what happens in the pits can be in whole seconds as with Jimmie today.
-Ed-
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
What about the ability to drive on cold tires on the out lap :ques:
Edit: There have been a small amount of races on the tele where've they've posted driver in/out laps speeds....
Wish they would do this more often.....
Edit: There have been a small amount of races on the tele where've they've posted driver in/out laps speeds....
Wish they would do this more often.....
Hey All,
No way to comment other than to say all the drivers face cold tires on the out and often on restarts. How do you separate car from driver? Different drivers and CCs have different ideas about how much air and how fast the tires come up to pressure. No idea what to say about this.
-Ed-
No way to comment other than to say all the drivers face cold tires on the out and often on restarts. How do you separate car from driver? Different drivers and CCs have different ideas about how much air and how fast the tires come up to pressure. No idea what to say about this.
-Ed-
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
DISCLAIMER: I'm NOT trying to say one series is better than another.
Some open wheel series are pretty keen on reporting in/out lap times. (Again, I'm not saying one series is better than the other).
That being said, I've seen drivers have some pretty incredible out laps on cold tires and the result that they've either gained a position or
maintained a position due to a slow pit crew member....
Some open wheel series are pretty keen on reporting in/out lap times. (Again, I'm not saying one series is better than the other).
That being said, I've seen drivers have some pretty incredible out laps on cold tires and the result that they've either gained a position or
maintained a position due to a slow pit crew member....
Hey All,
I think this is more of a concern at Daytona and Talledega since the tires are so flat - it takes a lap or more to build enough heat to have the right pressure. I'm not sure how big an issue it is on other NASCAR tracks although I suspect it is definitely an issue on restarts. I doubt it is even worth mentioning at Bristol and other short tracks. The variety in tracks is one of the major factors separating NASCAR from open wheel and is I have zero doubt the factor the absolute least understood by those who only see left turns.
-Ed-
I think this is more of a concern at Daytona and Talledega since the tires are so flat - it takes a lap or more to build enough heat to have the right pressure. I'm not sure how big an issue it is on other NASCAR tracks although I suspect it is definitely an issue on restarts. I doubt it is even worth mentioning at Bristol and other short tracks. The variety in tracks is one of the major factors separating NASCAR from open wheel and is I have zero doubt the factor the absolute least understood by those who only see left turns.
-Ed-