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womenfly2
Guest
... is there a D III skin like this in BHaH ? KP are my initials.
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Catfish
Guest
Hello,
not wanting to steal this thread, so Polovski, or whoever from the OFF team please answer WF's question ..
However i have two own questions:
1. Which plane is that ? I would go for a D.III (replica?), however what exactly is it (III, IIIa ? what is the difference ?)
2. How can both ailerons "hang down" - it should be one up, other down ? Were the control cables "unhooked" ?
Thanks and greetings,
Catfish
not wanting to steal this thread, so Polovski, or whoever from the OFF team please answer WF's question ..
However i have two own questions:
1. Which plane is that ? I would go for a D.III (replica?), however what exactly is it (III, IIIa ? what is the difference ?)
2. How can both ailerons "hang down" - it should be one up, other down ? Were the control cables "unhooked" ?
Thanks and greetings,
Catfish
Capt. Winters
Charter Member
Hi Guys,
Like Catfish, I'll let one of the texture guru's who looked after the German stuff answer WF2.
Catfish, I would say the aircraft is a large scale remote controlled job, possibly 1/8th scale or maybe even 1/4 scale. as for exact type, I dont know.
the ailerons, I am thinking individual servos for the aileron control and that possibly the power is off allowing them to both relax and the weight of the aileron is bringing them both into the down position.
but having said that I have seen some actual pictures of WWI types where the ailerons are both in a slightly downward position (nowhere as extreme as above though)
the following is taken from Air Minisitry, air publication 1107, 1931.
A Manual of
Rigging For Aircraft
Ailerons setting of.
284. In order to allow for stretch of cables when under load, ailerons are sometimes given an initial droop, that is, the trailing edge of the aileron is set a little lower than the corresponding trailing edge of the plane. The amount of setting generally varies between 1/2in. and 1-1/2in. measured at the trailing edge.
HTH's
regards Rob.
Like Catfish, I'll let one of the texture guru's who looked after the German stuff answer WF2.
Catfish, I would say the aircraft is a large scale remote controlled job, possibly 1/8th scale or maybe even 1/4 scale. as for exact type, I dont know.
the ailerons, I am thinking individual servos for the aileron control and that possibly the power is off allowing them to both relax and the weight of the aileron is bringing them both into the down position.
but having said that I have seen some actual pictures of WWI types where the ailerons are both in a slightly downward position (nowhere as extreme as above though)
the following is taken from Air Minisitry, air publication 1107, 1931.
A Manual of
Rigging For Aircraft
Ailerons setting of.
284. In order to allow for stretch of cables when under load, ailerons are sometimes given an initial droop, that is, the trailing edge of the aileron is set a little lower than the corresponding trailing edge of the plane. The amount of setting generally varies between 1/2in. and 1-1/2in. measured at the trailing edge.
HTH's
regards Rob.
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Polovski
Guest
Slightly drooping ailerons at rest was the case with the Sopwith Tripe (and is in OFF).
Very quick looks through... skin is Alb D.III OAW J32 1917 Konrad Poralla (thumbnail below)
I am sure the skinners can explain it more if needed, or maybe other Albs with it.
Very quick looks through... skin is Alb D.III OAW J32 1917 Konrad Poralla (thumbnail below)
I am sure the skinners can explain it more if needed, or maybe other Albs with it.
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ovs
Guest
Yes, that would be me... 
WF2, this is Konrad Poralla as Polovski pointed out, and is the OAW version.
The OAW had a rounded rudder, and looked like a cross between the D.V and D.III. It was used on the Southern section of the German front in place of the latter arriving D.V. It was actually preferred by some pilots over the D.V for it's performance and handling. The OAW also saw a lot of action on the Eastern front, and by many Austrian squadrons (Fliks). It was a very good, durable fighter for it's time.
Here is the base photo I used... Also.. the coloring was a guess. I used the base Jasta 32b D.III skin and logically extropolated it as if he simply painted his initials on it.
WF2, as all the skins... you are welcome to enjoy them any which way you want.
OvS
BTW... on a side note.. as you can see... we really dug EXTREMELY deep into any resources we could find to produce the amount of skins we did. Instead of just making known ace skins, you will see pilots that simply painted their planes. Not just aces.
View attachment 74206
WF2, this is Konrad Poralla as Polovski pointed out, and is the OAW version.
The OAW had a rounded rudder, and looked like a cross between the D.V and D.III. It was used on the Southern section of the German front in place of the latter arriving D.V. It was actually preferred by some pilots over the D.V for it's performance and handling. The OAW also saw a lot of action on the Eastern front, and by many Austrian squadrons (Fliks). It was a very good, durable fighter for it's time.
Here is the base photo I used... Also.. the coloring was a guess. I used the base Jasta 32b D.III skin and logically extropolated it as if he simply painted his initials on it.
WF2, as all the skins... you are welcome to enjoy them any which way you want.
OvS
BTW... on a side note.. as you can see... we really dug EXTREMELY deep into any resources we could find to produce the amount of skins we did. Instead of just making known ace skins, you will see pilots that simply painted their planes. Not just aces.
View attachment 74206
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womenfly2
Guest
Thanks everyone, that is so cool! Just amazing the amount of work and research the team put into this add-on. I will be flying her a lot.
The plane in the picture is a 1/3 scale R/C Model taken at the Southern Dawn Patrol 2008 model meet.
You can see more here at; Glenn Torrance Models
Thanks again OFF team and specially OvS for the great skin.
Cheers,
WF2
The plane in the picture is a 1/3 scale R/C Model taken at the Southern Dawn Patrol 2008 model meet.
You can see more here at; Glenn Torrance Models
Thanks again OFF team and specially OvS for the great skin.
Cheers,
WF2
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Catfish
Guest
Hello,
" ... plane in the picture is a 1/3 scale R/C Model ..."
I really mistook it for the real thing, just built and out of the workshop lol - only hint is the E.III's pilot in the background, it just looks artificial ..
So the plane is an OAW Albatros D.III, thank you.
Rob, I have some pictures of planes with "hanging" ailerons, rather than just in a slightly downward position. This Otto pusher is certainly a rather ancient plane, but ..
Thanks and greetings,
Catfish
" ... plane in the picture is a 1/3 scale R/C Model ..."
I really mistook it for the real thing, just built and out of the workshop lol - only hint is the E.III's pilot in the background, it just looks artificial ..
So the plane is an OAW Albatros D.III, thank you.
Rob, I have some pictures of planes with "hanging" ailerons, rather than just in a slightly downward position. This Otto pusher is certainly a rather ancient plane, but ..
Thanks and greetings,
Catfish
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ftgc
Guest
The reason the ailerons are hanging down is I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that he's using a servo for each aileron and that they are coreless digital servos. When the power is off the weight of the ailerons will pull them down as there is no gear set in the servo.
Scott
Scott
Dimus
SOH-CM-2024
In reality, in very early planes the ailerons drooped when not in flight. It was the airflow that pushed them up. Then the control cables were used to push them against the airflow, up or down, the cable system not being under tension constantly. I know I do not explain this fully but it is something like that. I'll try to get more precise info.