disappearing islands

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p0pr0ck

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Hey Guys Merry Christmas to all.

I am an avid flyer of cfs1 and several years ago put in the islands from H_Squad. One of them does not show up at all and another I can see from ten miles but at 4.6 miles out it vanishes! And on another two of them I can see the island base but the mountains do not show up.

There are two different kinds of textures in the texture folder for these islands.

Does anybody know why this is happening? I give up.

Thanks for any input.

p0pr0ck
 
Merry Christmas to you too:ernae:

This is only a wild guess since I don't know what scenery you're talking about exactly but, in my experience as a scenery designer, that sort of behaviour is caused by faulty V1 and V2 settings.

V1 is the distance at which an object appears, V2 is the radius at which it goes out as you're flying over and passed it. Large objects, which would include these islands, are often "flicking out" too soon.

If you could tell us where we could find these troublesome scenery, some of us could probably have a look at them and, if needed, fix them... in our spare time of course.:kilroy:
 
hubbabubba said:
Merry Christmas to you too:ernae:

This is only a wild guess since I don't know what scenery you're talking about exactly but, in my experience as a scenery designer, that sort of behaviour is caused by faulty V1 and V2 settings.

V1 is the distance at which an object appears, V2 is the radius at which it goes out as you're flying over and passed it. Large objects, which would include these islands, are often "flicking out" too soon.

If you could tell us where we could find these troublesome scenery, some of us could probably have a look at them and, if needed, fix them... in our spare time of course.:kilroy:
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Thanks for the response. The scenery came from the H_Squad website which I do not think is there anymore. I take it that it would take an adjustment with scenery tools to fix, eh? Thanks again, p0pr0ck
 
Hi Hubbabubba, PopRock,

I am guessing that it is conflicting scenery. Both sceneries take the same space, but one is visible further out. When you are within range, the "Ocean" part of the other scenery is displayed where the first island usta be. This is only a guess because I don't know what specific scenery you are describing.

- Ivan.
 
Ivan said:
Hi Hubbabubba, PopRock,

I am guessing that it is conflicting scenery. Both sceneries take the same space, but one is visible further out. When you are within range, the "Ocean" part of the other scenery is displayed where the first island usta be. This is only a guess because I don't know what specific scenery you are describing.

- Ivan.
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Thanks for the response Ivan. But the sceneries are miles apart.
p0p
 
No problems p0pr0ck.

If I were you, I would try first to download the scenery I want and re-install with them. Some have been «patched».

If the problems persist, try to contact the creator first. As copyrighted material, it would be improper for me to modify their works without permission, at least for distribution of any kind.

I'm in the process of "creaming" the site. Being on dial-up, it may take a while before I can come back to you. This is one more for my «to do» list...

Also thanks for AAC_Ripe and refuel zones appraisal, a tap in the back once in a while don't hurt :173go1:
 
Hey Poprock,

In case you didn't know, Hubbabubba is the creator of AAC_Ripe.

Regarding Islands miles apart, I was more thinking along the line that each island is conflicting with some scenery very close to it.

- Ivan.
 
hubbabubba said:
No problems p0pr0ck.

If I were you, I would try first to download the scenery I want and re-install with them. Some have been «patched».

If the problems persist, try to contact the creator first. As copyrighted material, it would be improper for me to modify their works without permission, at least for distribution of any kind.

I'm in the process of "creaming" the site. Being on dial-up, it may take a while before I can come back to you. This is one more for my «to do» list...

Also thanks for AAC_Ripe and refuel zones appraisal, a tap in the back once in a while don't hurt :173go1:
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Didn't know I did anything wrong. I end my quest, have found the email of the author. I did not mean to offend. I got aac_ripe right here.
p0pr0ck

p0pr0ck
 
When you have two scenery competing, two things may happen;

1 - nothing, as they have both sufficient place in the buffer zone, or;

2 - «deck of cards» effect, so aptly named by smilo. An overflow of the buffer zone will force an endless repetition of the last scenery shown, as the next one could not «enter». This will ceased as soon as your out of the conflict zone... if you don't crash before:pop4:, LOL!

A disappearing act is almost certainly caused by a viewing parameter. The most common cause is, let us say, an a/c passing over the Refpoint of a large object (i.e. a runway) and leading to the vanishing of the object before it should be.

Now, let us imagine that we are aproching an island from the South going North. If the Refpoint of the scenery is on the South coast, the island may well disappear while you're just starting to cross it. The designer may well miss that if he always made his approaches coming from the North.

This is getting technical. I have just finished d/l of page one. I will have a quick look at Ice Island. Tundra will have to wait.

P.S.- You have used a forbidden word here. BTW, if you downloaded my scenery from this pirate site, the tap on the back may well be to find where to insert the dagger. This ****bag is generating traffic with stolen property while claiming serving the simming community. What a load of c**p! If it is still time, go and edit before SOH staff do it for you.
 
I'm not offended. As a new member, you may not be aware of the harm these peoples (and I'm using the term loosely here) are making. Seeing your work offered under someones' else name, like Ivan's birds, or modified without permission, sometimes maliciously, is enough to make you quit modeling for others.
 
p0pr0ck said:
Hey Guys Merry Christmas to all.

I am an avid flyer of cfs1 and several years ago put in the islands from H_Squad. One of them does not show up at all and another I can see from ten miles but at 4.6 miles out it vanishes! And on another two of them I can see the island base but the mountains do not show up.

There are two different kinds of textures in the texture folder for these islands.

Does anybody know why this is happening? I give up.

Thanks for any input.

p0pr0ck
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just wondering if they ever worked properly.
 
I would need to know where you are when the Ice Island disappear. Use the shift+z key.

I have been around it once in a chopper and couldn't provoke the disappearance act. I can wander around willy-nilly for hours that way.

just wondering if they ever worked properly
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Some did, smilo. I have Labrador Island and go there from time to time. Never had any problem. H_Squad seems more interested in flying within the islands rather than to and from them. This may explain the flickering-out on approaches.
 
p0pr0ck said:
Didn't know I did anything wrong. I end my quest, have found the email of the author. I did not mean to offend. I got aac_ripe right here.
p0pr0ck

p0pr0ck
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hubbabubba said:
P.S.- You have used a forbidden word here. BTW, if you downloaded my scenery from this pirate site, the tap on the back may well be to find where to insert the dagger. This ****bag is generating traffic with stolen property while claiming serving the simming community. What a load of c**p! If it is still time, go and edit before SOH staff do it for you.
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interesting...apparently, I missed something
that has been taken care of.
I could guess, but won't.
no harm, no foul
thanks
 
smilo said:
just wondering if they ever worked properly.
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I took the advice of Hubbabubba and downloaded new copies from H_Squad site. Thanks for the link Hubbabubba. Ice Isle is a new version to me, got my first download about 2002. Ice isle works perfectly now. I was unable to get tundra to show up at all. I am thinking it is probably my machine as evidently it works for them. I think of it this way, I got a free scenery download so I am not whining. One less island is all and I have had years of fun flying h_Squad scenery. They do a great job. Thanks and thanks to you for finding that link for me.

p0pr0ck
 
Yeah p0pr0ck!

Ice Island works A-okay. I've tried approaches from every possible compass bearings and the Island did not flickered even once.

Let me check on Tundra. I have now downloaded all sceneries and will probably save them on a CD pretty soon.
 
I was unable to get tundra to show up at all. I am thinking it is probably my machine as evidently it works for them. I think of it this way, I got a free scenery download so I am not whining. One less island is all and I have had years of fun flying h_Squad scenery. They do a great job. Thanks and thanks to you for finding that link for me.
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Tundra works well here! I would guess that your installation of CFS1 does not follow the «regular» path;


c:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT GAMES\COMBAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR\SCENERY

This is what happens with self-installing routine; they have a knack for screwing things up! LOL!

Many ways to solve that. But let's try the obvious one;

1- Go cut the sub-folder «Tundra» under the path way described above. Chances are that it was created by the ignominious «auto-installer».

2- If you can't find it this way, make a search for «Tundra».

3- Paste where your normally put your own scenery folders.

4- Do as you normally do to install a scenery.

It should work, give it a try. I think of it this way; why content yourself with half the fun when you can get all of it?:icon_lol:

P.S.- If it doen't work, we can try something else.
 
hubbabubba said:
Tundra works well here! I would guess that your installation of CFS1 does not follow the «regular» path;


c:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT GAMES\COMBAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR\SCENERY

This is what happens with self-installing routine; they have a knack for screwing things up! LOL!

Many ways to solve that. But let's try the obvious one;

1- Go cut the sub-folder «Tundra» under the path way described above. Chances are that it was created by the ignominious «auto-installer».

2- If you can't find it this way, make a search for «Tundra».

3- Paste where your normally put your own scenery folders.

4- Do as you normally do to install a scenery.

It should work, give it a try. I think of it this way; why content yourself with half the fun when you can get all of it?:icon_lol:

P.S.- If it doen't work, we can try something else.
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My path is the normal one and the installer did well. WHen I look it up on the 'go to' menu it is there but when I goto the scenery there is nothing but ocean. I am thinking it is not compatible with my operating system. I have trouble with a couple of other sceneries. Suffice it to say that I accept this and maybe later on there will be a different version put out. But for now my disappearing islands have disappeared. Thanks for your assistance.p0pr0ck
 
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