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Early Repain Request...Catalina

J

jdhaenens

Luddite in Training
Seems that Aerosoft snubbed the United Kingdom when all the liveries for it's soon to be released Catalina were settled upon. There is only one RAF paint and it is from the 333 (Norwegian) Squadron. No native RAF paints exist as yet.

It's like giving a party and having no one come...I built RAF Oban and won't have an accurate Cat to fly there until someone does a repaint. 210 Sqn would be nice, but I'd settle for any native Coastal Command paint scheme. I'm desperately trying to find pictures (other than the grainy black and white ones I have) or drawings that show the scheme.

To be fair, Aerosoft did do a Pensacola model, an NAS Jacksonville model (at least their JI-P-30 model looks like the picture of JI-P-32 I have landing in the James River off NAS JAX), and a Black Cat as well, so the rest of my seaplane friendly airports are covered.

BTW: VERY early pic of my WIP Oak Harbor.

oakharbor2.jpg


Note: The preceeding whine was accompanied by pouting and stamping of feet. If you didn't hear or see this demonstration in your locality, please contact your internet service provider for the "Watch Jim stamp his feet and pout" addon. Fees and restrictions apply...:crybaby:

Jim
 
Hmmmm....yes Jim I had noticed. I seem to remember we had something to do with WWII :)kilroy:) and it would be nice to have CC camo and white underbelly version.
 
I'm anxiously awaiting this release, and as they promised us a paintkit too, I'll see what I can do, OK?
You just find us a couple of pics...
 
Hmmm...saw those two and not sure I believe either. The lower one has the right roundel on the fuselage though.

Here's what I've found:

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/about496.html&highlight=catalina
http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=12529&start=0
http://www.flyingmule.com/products/CG-AA36103
http://www.amazon.co.uk/PBY-Catalina-MK1VA-JX574-210-SQN/dp/B000P5RVES
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=404422&nseq=167
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=301075&nseq=177
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5934203&nseq=78

firstcatalina.jpg


catinbay.jpg


catalinaonslip.jpg


consolidatedpby5catalin.jpg


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I'd be partial to the darker one with the light colored bottom. Looks to match the original black and white pics better...and the painting.

Thanks !
 
jdhaenens said:
Seems that Aerosoft snubbed the United Kingdom when all the liveries for it's soon to be released Catalina were settled upon. There is only one RAF paint and it is from the 333 (Norwegian) Squadron. No native RAF paints exist as yet.
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Although comprised largely of Norwegians, 333 Squadron were a Coastal Command unit operating within the RAF. Their aircraft carried exactly the same colour scheme as every other UK based Catalina during the Second World War, their only unique feature being a small Norwegian flag painted on some, if not all of the aircraft.

I fail to see why having this particular Squadron as a representative of the RAF is such a problem. The Norwegians fought as hard as any other nation, and recognition for them is, IMHO, long overdue.

Given that the seller will be providing a paint kit, just how much time and effort will it take to change the code letters and serial?

Best wishes
Steve P
 
You misunderstand. I wasn't miffed because of who was included, I was amazed at who wasn't. ANYONE who will take an aircraft into the North Atlantic in the dead of winter and do low level recon and anti-submarine warfare has all the respect and admiration I can muster.

Jim
 
Yes, I think you got the wrong end of the Stick there Steve ;)

Jim, I've sent a begging letter to Dag. :kilroy:
 
Thanks, Nick and Jankees. By the way, the squadron code for the 210 Sqn was DA. Now JX874 (above) was supposed to be from 210 Sqn, but has no squadron markings. The letters by the aft roundel were plane identifiers to my recollection (which may not be reliable at times). I don't think 210 squadron went to the lighter camo until they transferred to Sullom Voe (1943?). I've got the statics at Oban in dark grey presently, obviously to match the black and white pics I had (LOL). I guess I'll get to repainting them now. Looking at Dag's 333 Sqn paint which is marvelous, Steve is right on: Change the squadron code, tail flash, and the decal under the pilot's window, and it's an Oban Squadron aircraft. Again, it's probably way more difficult than just that.
 
Jim. I've just got around to installing Oban which looks great, thank you. However, when the Cat is released, if you purchase you may want to look at the scale alongside your AI.



jim_cat.jpg
 
Out comes the book... ;)

210 flew with a number of different codes during the war. They started it with "nil", but that was on Southamptons, Singapores, Sunderlands and Stranraers. 5/39 to 9/39 they used "VG" on Sunderlands, 9/39 to disbanding in 12/43 they used "DA" on, amongst others, Catalina Is.

Reformed on 01/01/44 (exactly a day after dispanding on 31/12/43) by renumbering 190 Squadron, they flew with Catalina Is and IIs with no squadron letters shown until the end of the war, when the disbanded again and were reformed at St. Eval with Lancasters using "OZ", "L" and finally "210" before being disbanded on 31/01/1957.

The only Catalina matched fuselage and tail codes I have for them are AH531 DA-A (Catalina I) and VA729 DA-P (IIA).

Edit: Add W8420 DA-O (Catalina I) to that list, from Combat Codes.
 
Thanks, Nick, I was flying blind on scaling the statics, and intended to update them after the Cats came out to match them up. The statics I have are set up as Cat I's (no wheels/with beaching gear...extra in the northern shed at Oban) And thanks for the info Ian.
 
Well the paintkits are really awesome and easy to use. I think there's actually going to be 11 different paintkits for each model variant. In that matter even I could do some paints for you, if I can just find good images of the paint.
 
Thanks, Dag. Look at Ian's post above. He has a couple of matching numbers, and if you look at my original pics (the black and white ones taken at Oban at the right time, there are no squadron codes at all, just tail numbers. I realize the need for prioritization. Thanks for your help.


Oban in 1940 (actually the slip on Kerrera)
obanthen.jpg


Scenery: I moved Sir Lipton's Ketch and the Duty shack. I understand this was a regular turn of events then as well.
obanscenery.jpg
 
I have a little horde of "just tail codes", if you want those - matched to aircraft type, but not colour schemes as they're just text, not photos.


9/39 - 12/43 period:
Ib: FP102
IIIa: FP536

1/44 - 6/45 period:
Ib: FP267
IVa: JV931
IVb: JX604
 
Another serial/code tie up:

Catalina I W8416 DA E

Camouflage scheme was early war - codes and individual aircraft letter underneath the mainplane with fuselage roundel (type A1) aft of the blister. Type B roundel on top of mainplane. I have a very small photo (awful quality) of this aircraft. I'll try and scan it later.

Best wishes
Steve P
 
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