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Siggi

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FPS up the ying-yang and flamers galore! :jump::jump::jump:

Not only has my FPS gone beyond what it was originally, I'm now setting scouts alight, three in quick succession where I'd never had one before (kept wondering about that). Had set a couple of 2-seaters alight though.

"What was it then?" I hear you ask. Well, I OC'd back to 3.0ghz this time (was 3.2ghz before) but somebody mentioned the CPU throttling itself (thanks whoever you are, I'll check the other threads later). Logically that shouldn't have been happening, it's only supposed to kick in when the CPU isn't under load. I'd left it enabled because it's a good feature, or so I thought.

I went into the BIOS and disabled both Speed-Step and C1E (both do the same thing effectively) and bugger me if it didn't work. OC on permanently, into the game and voila! And the bonus being fighters setting alight (down to the extra CPU horses?).

So I figure that as only one core was under load in-game, and the other three idle, Speed-step was activating itself and giving me only 2.0ghz.

Lowest I've now seen in QC at 53351 is 25fps dog-fighting just above the trees. Ditto airfields, looking right at them on close fly-past I get lowest 25fps.

I'm praying the campaign is sorted too.

Many thanks to everyone who jumped in with suggestions and stuff. :)
 
Great news. I think Polovski maybe gets the credit for mentioning throttling.
 
77Scout said:
Great news. I think Polovski maybe gets the credit for mentioning throttling.
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Pol and Gremlin both nailed it.

Duh...Prime95 stresses all four cores, so of course Everest didn't show any throttling going on. OFF runs only one core, so the C1E was throttling it (Speed-step was already disabled as it happens).

I blame it on my advancing years.:kilroy:
 
Cool :d, all those years getting cuts inside old PC cases were not wasted then (much)!

Yeah didn't seem right that mega slow down from high fps, only logical thing was cpu cooking nicely.

My 8400 is o/c to 3.7 and runs fine. But I can happily run it on 4.0+ ghz but the then temp goes bananas under load. Like 40 degrees difference which is not too good for it ;)
 
Siggi said:
Pol and Gremlin both nailed it.

Duh...Prime95 stresses all four cores, so of course Everest didn't show any throttling going on. OFF runs only one core, so the C1E was throttling it (Speed-step was already disabled as it happens).

I blame it on my advancing years.:kilroy:
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Siggi,

Did you limit your o/c to 3Ghz, or did you kick it back up to 3.2?
 
Great News, Siggi.

Glad you're back in the furball.

If it was Andrew nailed those scouts I trust he's getting thoroughly plastered back at 54's Mess.

:applause: to all.
 
When I was looking at getting a new processor, I looked at the E8600 and the E8500. I went with the E8500 for the simple fact that I couldn't justify the extra cost ($80+US) for the limited performance gains I would get with the E8600. I also understand that the E8600 has some heat issues. The E8500 has been O/C to 4.25Ghz on air, and at that speed outperformed the QX9770 in some areas. IMHO the E8500 is the best "bang for the buck", I paid $189 US for it, but as anything else, opinions vary.

CJ
 
Cameljockey said:
When I was looking at getting a new processor, I looked at the E8600 and the E8500. I went with the E8500 for the simple fact that I couldn't justify the extra cost ($80+US) for the limited performance gains I would get with the E8600. I also understand that the E8600 has some heat issues. The E8500 has been O/C to 4.25Ghz on air, and at that speed outperformed the QX9770 in some areas. IMHO the E8500 is the best "bang for the buck", I paid $189 US for it, but as anything else, opinions vary.

CJ
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Apparently, there's gonna be an e8700 pretty soon, so the price of the e8600 should drop below $200 if Intel follows there usual pricing scheme. Then again, with the state that the world economy is in, they may go a lot lower.

To tell you the truth, I'm not an avid overclocker. I go for what I call "easy overclocks." These are ones that require very simple and relatively safe changes to the BIOS, usually just FSB, memory strap and timings.

I'd get laughed off of a lot tech forums if I mentioned that I'd o/c'd an e8600 to only 4Ghz. But, the benefit of such a modest overclock of the part are real, and they're accomplished without any increase in voltage to CPU, memory or northbridge.

I'm using a PWM fan and EIST (speedstep), so the system is quiet when I'm not gaming. Under load the fan spins up to about 2500rpm, but I can't hear it over the drone of my engine and spandaus, anyhow.

My temps after 3 hrs of Prime95 25.9 are 52/51, as opposed to 42/41 running at the processors default speed of 3.33 Ghz. The temps were recorded using a proggy called RealTemp.

When I'm not playing games on this PC, I work and listen to music that's stored on its hard drive in lossless format. The audio files are encoded into dolby digital and then fed to an external amplifier over a toslink cable, producing very nice sound.

Life is good.
 
My E8400 currently is running at 4.15 GHz air-cooled. In my opinion this is an even better bang for the buck :d
 
I've just come home with a new E8400, E0-stepping. I'll be going for 4ghz. £143. :)
 
Siggi said:
I've just come home with a new E8400, E0-stepping. I'll be going for 4ghz. £143. :)
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Siggi..

Am curious what Speedstep and C1E were set to prior to making the changes you did. Mine are both set to Auto, albeit I have the dual core E8400 vs your quad.
 
Cameljockey said:
When I bought the E8500, the E8400 was only $20 cheaper at $169 and I could justify the $20 increase vs $80.

CJ
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Ah o.k., when I bought the E8400 the E8500 was new and barely available. The price difference was much higher.
 
Over50 said:
Siggi..

Am curious what Speedstep and C1E were set to prior to making the changes you did. Mine are both set to Auto, albeit I have the dual core E8400 vs your quad.
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I haven't got a clue, but I did find I'd already disabled Speed-step at some point. It was C1E that was doing the throttling (going down from x9 multiplier to x6).
 
Q.: which proc. ?

Hello,
while you guys are at it - i'm not a computer illiterate, but i have some problems with the newer stuff.

Right now i have an Asus P5K mainboard (wifi), with 2 Gb Ram (2x1 at "parallel banks" ? or what's it called), and a lame Core 2 Duo processor E6550, 2.33 GHz, 4Mb L2 Cache, don't know the fsb right now (1333 ?).

Which other Processor would be the best for playing OFF in this configuration, let's say in value for money, with full graphics and speed ?
I know Proc. speed is not all, but the fsb speed should be good enough ? Would it keep being at 1333 with other Processors ?

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish
 
Catfish said:
Hello,
while you guys are at it - i'm not a computer illiterate, but i have some problems with the newer stuff.

Right now i have an Asus P5K mainboard (wifi), with 2 Gb Ram (2x1 at "parallel banks" ? or what's it called), and a lame Core 2 Duo processor E6550, 2.33 GHz, 4Mb L2 Cache, don't know the fsb right now (1333 ?).

Which other Processor would be the best for playing OFF in this configuration, let's say in value for money, with full graphics and speed ?
I know Proc. speed is not all, but the fsb speed should be good enough ? Would it keep being at 1333 with other Processors ?

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish
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An E8400 would go into that very nicely, and with 1066 RAM you should be able to clock it up to 4ghz. :)
 
Hello Siggi,
first nice to hear you sorted this problem with your processor !
The E8400 looks indeed good, it is even not so much more expensive than the E6850, or so it seems.
Thank you,
and greetings,
Catfish
 
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