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F-14 tactics

AHHH Fleet defender. I have MANY hour of flight time on it. I still have it actualy. I wonder if it will work through DOSBOX.

I also have "Art of the Kill". Both the book and video. I still have my F16 Falcon with the MIG 29 and F/A18 extra CDs.

Those were the days. Then CFS2 came out and there I've stayed.

Great stuff Guys.
 
It's my (limited) understanding that Robert Shaw's Fighter Combat is one of the best books ever written on ACM.

I have a copy, and found it very informative, full of relative anecdotes, and had well drawn illustrations of each maneuver.

:wavey:
 
While all good stuff, we would be wise to remember that most of the 3rd generation fighters
like the F14, were designed at the outset as interceptors of large hostile bombing formations,at beyond visual range.
Hence large, powerful radars and long range missiles fitted as standard.

Dogfighting was a secondary function.

Ttfn

Pete
 
Dogifghting wasn't secondary for either aircraft. The Turkey got its fangs because of the RoE over 'nam, the fixed-wing turkey got its claws because the intelligence services thought the MiG-25 was much, much, MUCH more than the mach 2.8+ brick that it really was and wanted something to counter it.

It's funny to consider what would have happened if the intel on the Foxbat had been realistic from the outset. No F-15, but F-14s in USAF markings?
 
Last I checked, the F-14 was/is a 4th gen fighter...

Suppose it depends on your cutoff, I always thought it was the era of design. 1960-1970 for third gen.
According to Wikipedia F-14 first flight 1970.

Whatever, it's all academic as fsx won't run properly on my system anyhow.

Ttfn

Pete
 
I'd fall back to the opinion of the lead engineer for the design purpose:

"We were totally preoccupied with producing a fighter, with a basic weapon fit of four AIM-7's and two AIM-9's. Then we sat back and figured out how to screw six AIM-54's onto it without messing up the fighter role."

- Robert Kress


To corroborate that statement, there are a couple of features that really made the F-14 a 4th generation fighter and standard setter for aircraft to come. In no particular order:

- Wide set engines to allow a straight air path from the inlet to the compressor to improve engine reliability in the high alpha region. This was particularly important for the still new low bypass-afterburning turbofans and was a lesson learned from the F-111, which had really nasty problems during hard maneuvering (at least the early versions).

- The above enabled very high alpha maneuvering that was previously unheard of. Like all modern fighter airframe's, "stall" is a relative term that only signify's boundary layer separation and the dissociation of drag dependence on lift coefficient. In colloquial terms, the F-14 increases lift (both force and coefficient) after the onset of stall to a peak at 30 degrees while usable lift doesn't really drop off until after 45 degrees or so.

- Because of both of the above, stability was a major issue. The F-14 had the capacity to achieve 50 degrees AoA, but this was a perilous region and really only reached at the peak of a loop where the aircraft was inverted. Two vertical stabilizers had been used before (MiG-25 in particular) to increase stability in a different region. But the F-14 was one of if not the first aircraft to really need them in the high alpha maneuvering region, because it was the first to go there. Of the 6,000 models built for wind tunnel testing, the "optimum" design had three stabilizers in a triangular configuration, but it was decidedly un-sexy and cast aside in favor of design model 303E (which became the Tomcat we all know).

Design intent aside, this has been a great discussion on the F-14! For those interested in more, two relatively inexpensive books to consider are:

How to fight and fly in the F-14: More focused on the D model, but still a good read

The great book of modern warplanes: I picked this up at an estate sale and later bought the two sister books (Modern Warplanes II and World War II airplanes.) It's one of the most informative books around is hard to find anything more era informative that doesn't have a government stamp somewhere on it.
 
Formation flying is coming along nicely, still waiting for the SU 27s to make another appearance.
I think I have a high speed yo yo maneuver that will work if timed right for a visual.
 

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Two books I got delivered right before the Aerosoft release, the 1st link JohnC mentioned and P. Gillcrist's "Tomcat!, The Grumman F-14 Story" listed on the "Customers also bought..." on the Amazon page. The Opsrey Combat Aircraft series of USN Tomcat units of OIF/OEF give more detail into the final role of the Tomcat in successful air2ground missions.
 
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