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Free O&O Defrag 10

Just an opinion here, but during the W7 betas and RC etc. one thing that I decided was to stay away from any add-on defragmenters for at least the time being.

By appearances it looks like one of the more hidden big improvements in W7 over previous versions of Windows is in the built in defragger.

Just one of the articles:
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/20...d-engineering-the-windows-7-improvements.aspx

I've always been a big believer in external defrag utilities and had been using PerfectDisk with XP. But watching W7 and it's built in system, I'm okay with it so far.

The other side of that, is that I'm not sure that W7 has been out long enough for anyone to actually come up with an improvement over the default. PerfectDisk keeps sending me incentives to upgrade but I don't really see anything yet that makes me think it's anymore than just a piece of" made to be compatible" version W7 bloatware. My guess is that all outside makers of defrag utilities are making the same pitch scrambling to salvage customers.

FAC
 
It'll do fine on Vista 64-bit too, just make sure you get the 64-bit O & O 10 and not the 32-bit, unless you have a 32-bit OS.

I am running O & O 11 now, haven't upgraded to 12 yet. I have mine on Auto-Defrag and it defrags as I play and work, but I still do a complete defrag once a month while I sleep.

I must say that Smart Defrag from IOBIT does just as well IMHO and is free too.

Caz
 
It might be me but I can't see a link on the site to download version 10 only the new version 12. Am I missing something?

Ian.
 
I've been running the 64-bit version of O&O v.8.6 on my Win7-64 for several months now. Can't think of why v.10 wouldn't run if the earlier one would.

As an aside, I checked my built-in W7 defragger this morning, doing a simple analysis on my C drive. It reported it as "0% fragmented". Checking it in O&O 8.6 reported 8.99% fragmented. I'm not sure which is closer to the truth, but I tend to believe the more pessimistic of the two.

Thanks for the HU on v.10. Downloading it now...
 
Something else to bear in mind: defragging doesn't help. :salute: (But well, that's my personal experience. But maybe that's just because I always keep my system clean and tidy. :jump: )
 
Thanks for the HU Dave! :ernae: What a great gift from O&O! :applause: I think this program originally sold for $50. I just ran the first passes on all five of my drives, and it does a great job. Per Nick's instructions, the first passes were SPACE mode, although I don't think it matters with XP SP3. I'll run a COMPLETE defrag the next time I run it.

Thanks again!
 
Unfortunately when I first ran the program I lost my second hard drive. I've since regained it and uninstalled O&O v10 but the drive now is difficult to access with Windows explorer displaying "not responding" many times. A "Smart" defrag is telling me it will take 24 hours to complete and it usually takes about 10 minutes. I hope the problems on my second hd will not persist as my port-overs and payware back-ups are on that drive!
I think I'll have to write to O&O and try and get some tech support. I should be old enough to know that there's no such thing as a free lunch but I couldn't resist Nick Needham's defragger.
On a separate note there's no way a payware product should give this sort of a disastrous result. If I have to reinstall Vista and then FsX I will not be pleased as I have never had to reinstall either since December 2007!
 
Well my secondary hd (F) drive is not accessible other than for viewing. I cannot download from it or defrag it with any other defragger I have. There is probably £500+ of payware on it ready for the quarterly back-up and this cannot be done.
I am very annoyed.
 
I have lots of hard drives for my photo and video work (my current computer has 5.3TB worth of hard drives). Defragging when needed definitely helps, a good defragmenter can save time and improve performance.
I use PerfectDisk 10; both on XP Pro and now; Windows 7 Pro. I've tried most of the defragmentation software; seems to me PerfectDisk works the best.
It is a pretty good deal now until 1/3/10 for $23.99USD. Included upgrade to PerfectDisk 11. Use code PD11FREE for the discount price.
I don't work for them; they send me the discount code as a previous customer.
 
Seriously?
Yes, seriously. I've never been able to see ANY benefit from defragging with for instance O&O like NickN suggests. It was a complete waste of time for me. I have Windows 7 right now and it's installed without any tweaks, so I think it's defragged automatically in the background somehow, I don't even know. But using O&O and doing space, space, offline, offline, name, name, space has never ever done ANYTHING for me (and I've tried it all at least three times in the past). Completely useless. Specially after every install of some scenery... Ridiculous. But again, I have a nice and tidy system (I don't download and install everything that can be downloaded and installed) so that might help.
 
Well after an evening and a very early morning I seem to have a working "F" drive again:jump: (crosses fingers and touches wood!
Nothing against David Wilson-Okamura for the hu...it looked like a great deal and free too:applause:. However maybe I'll stick with Iobit Smart defrag in future.
The fix (after 8 or 9 hours of Googling etc.) was to strip the case down and then unplug the sata and power cables from the "F" drive and reboot to bios. Then select "not installed" and boot to Windows. Next shut down and reconnect the drive and re-enable in bios. Finally a working drive again...what a nightmare!
 
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