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p3aewguy

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Just had an interesting development. I'm having trouble with one aircraft, the FS-KBT EP-3E Aires II for FS9. It has been awhile since I flew it, so I took off in it yesterday.
  • First off, it wouldn't develop power on takeoff, only getting to 80% rpm.
  • Tried switching to it inflight from the P-3C, aircraft went nuts, engines fluxing and then sim locked up. Had to use task manager to get out.
  • I went into the Aircraft config and pasted the engine and prop sections from the P-3C which is working fine.
  • Tried it again, shortly after takeoff and gear up, a minute or so, the engines fluxed wildly, aircraft pitched down and left and the sim locked up (does this every time). Had to use task manager to get out.
  • Tried changing panels, no joy, still did it. Tried selecting different paints and both models (VC and non VC), still no joy!
  • Down loaded fresh copy of the EP-3E from Avsim and Fltsim. Unzipped and tried to run the installer and got a "not compatible with OS warning" both times!

Very strange, it appears no other aircraft are affected. I've been running Win 7 the last three years on this machine and have flown this bird before, which is why I don't understand this. The only thing I have done is add two new paints.

Hate to give up on this aircraft, any ideas? I haven't done any updates recently or anything else that I can think off.



Dave
 
(Slowly) downloading ep3e_vq1.zip from FlightSim, but It will be a little bit before I can test.
 
OK - I also got the OS error. I clicked to close that dialog, then Windows asked me if the program had installed correctly. Instead of just closing that, I chose the option of trying the install again, and this time it ran fine. Next step will be flight testing...
 
I just took a quick flight from Chicago Midway to Meigs Field. I hand flew it the entire way, which I'll be the first to admit that I'm not very good at. But this thing, although it never did try to crash, was a bear to handle. Then it dawned on me. FSKBT is (in)famous for grossly over-inflated pitch/roll/yaw MOI figures. I haven't taken it back up yet, but these are my new figures based on Wikipedia's listed empty weight and dimensions fed into my little spreadsheet with the MS MOI formulas:

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
empty_weight_CG_position=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations=50
station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
empty_weight=77200 //66900.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI=412800 //1035601.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI=1304680 //1371652.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI=1180282 //1732934.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI=1300.000
max_gross_weight=110811.799
CG_forward_limit=0.000
CG_aft_limit=0.000
 
p3aewguy said:
Just had an interesting development. I'm having trouble with one aircraft, the FS-KBT EP-3E Aires II for FS9. It has been awhile since I flew it, so I took off in it yesterday.
  • First off, it wouldn't develop power on takeoff, only getting to 80% rpm.
  • Tried switching to it inflight from the P-3C, aircraft went nuts, engines fluxing and then sim locked up. Had to use task manager to get out.
  • I went into the Aircraft config and pasted the engine and prop sections from the P-3C which is working fine.
  • Tried it again, shortly after takeoff and gear up, a minute or so, the engines fluxed wildly, aircraft pitched down and left and the sim locked up (does this every time). Had to use task manager to get out.
  • Tried changing panels, no joy, still did it. Tried selecting different paints and both models (VC and non VC), still no joy!
  • Down loaded fresh copy of the EP-3E from Avsim and Fltsim. Unzipped and tried to run the installer and got a "not compatible with OS warning" both times!

Very strange, it appears no other aircraft are affected. I've been running Win 7 the last three years on this machine and have flown this bird before, which is why I don't understand this. The only thing I have done is add two new paints.

Hate to give up on this aircraft, any ideas? I haven't done any updates recently or anything else that I can think off.



Dave
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If its not the panel/gauges causing this, and not an AP left on with AT from a jet, then try copying the P-3C air file over to test.
 
Free advice... When taking off from Meigs, REDUCE FUEL!!! :173go1:

I did get off the ground with 100% fuel, but just barely! Before my approach to O'Hare, I reduced to 10% fuel, and it still felt like a lead brick trying to balance out my descent. But at least it now handles like (what I would imagine to be) something smaller than Antonov 226!

Bottom line, do a fresh install. If the installer balks at the OS, click the OK/Close/whatever button and let W7 ask if it went right, then tell it to try again. Plug in some smaller MOI #'s to get the handling under control, then try it again.

Edit: If you suspect a gauge, try this... Head over to Garry's place and pick up Mike Stone's Britannia. Drop the panel into the EP-3 folder and edit the config to use that in one of the no-VC variants. To my knowledge, nobody has ever reported any issues with Mike's gauges.
http://www.gjsmith.net/Textures/britianna.htm
 
Hey Guys,

Reinstall worked great and it flies right! Thanks for the assist. Don't have any idea how the original got corrupted, but all's well that ends well!

Dave
 
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