germany detonated nukes in 45?

[Willy]

I believe the Nazi atomic project was code named "Virus House".

 

[Matt Wynn]

the germans were close, if the war had gone on another year.... well look what may have happened, the superb German Jets that were planned but never saw flight during the war... things like the HE162B,C,D, the HS132, Ta183 and more chilling to think, the Horten 229 and possibly their America - Bomber, complete with Nuclear weapon, the america bomber idea was on the boards in early 1943 (IIRC), and was planned to carry just one bomb... Nuclear, and release it on New York, if they'd have managed that well.... we cannot even begin to think of the consequences.

Germany always was and still is an innovative country, just that now they've moved from globalisation and supremacy into the world of affordable, good quality cars, either way thats still 2-0 on the scoresheet

 

[Lionheart]

lol, i wish i could have seen more of his sketchbook. He stopped bring it to class after that.

I can describe one of the sketches (man, i hope nobody is watching this..haha). It was a very long and thin beam, with two small spheres on both ends (almost like a stretched out classic dumbbell with small round weights). On both spheres were tiny observation windows....so the scale looks as long as a 757....of course just super thin. There were no visible engines or wings. He rendered it solid black except for the window area and drew a few hovering over a landscape....really errie.

anyways...weird huh? That's not your typical "sci-fi" spaceship design (in films/games, we typically have very distinct "front (cockpit)" and "back (engines)" on designs...so the general audience can quickly tell where the ship is pointed. These designs he drew would not work well inside a game/film...but yet they felt so realistic....so who knows what they are for....??

-feng

Thats wild.. lol..

There have been many reports of cigars the size of huge fuselages. Some even docking with each other, one above the other.

There is a hilarious YouTube footage of a modern, state of the art Mig chasing a cylinder. The Cylinder makes an arc turn and accellerates twice its speed, gradually leaving the Mig behind. Its all on a combat camera.

The funny part is that the cylinder has flat ends.. Sounds like the Borg in Star Trek.

Anyways, easy enough to search for in YouTube. And yes, looks very real.



With Magneto drive, who knows where the front would be, or if there would be. The magnetic poles would be the 'control surfaces' or 'ends'.


In reading a book long ago in my childhood, a book on UFO's, there was a report of a group of hikers in New Mexico that came accross a crashed disc on top of a Mesa. Totally different from the famed UFO. This one had a burned, cracked, damaged top hatch. A couple of the hikers were able to climb through the hatch (they got it opened) and climbed around in the ship. It appeared to have seats for small kids, and two levels. The exterior was round.

The chapter of the book continues that the technology of the disc craft was that the 'systems' were not attached by wiring, and that the outer area within the round hull had a cylinder (torroid) in it where 3 large metal spheres/balls raced around, like a gyro. (Giant ball bearings?)

Supposedly the USAF disassembled it to take it to a base and couldnt put it back together.

I have looked for that book again and havent found it. Some wild stories in it.


Who knows.....

 

[Piglet]

LH comes up with the wildest stories! The planes I work on have magneto drive... Usually Slick or Bendix, firing two plugs per cylinder.

 

[kilo delta]

lol, i wish i could have seen more of his sketchbook. He stopped bring it to class after that.

I can describe one of the sketches (man, i hope nobody is watching this..haha). It was a very long and thin beam, with two small spheres on both ends (almost like a stretched out classic dumbbell with small round weights). On both spheres were tiny observation windows....so the scale looks as long as a 757....of course just super thin. There were no visible engines or wings. He rendered it solid black except for the window area and drew a few hovering over a landscape....really errie.

anyways...weird huh? That's not your typical "sci-fi" spaceship design (in films/games, we typically have very distinct "front (cockpit)" and "back (engines)" on designs...so the general audience can quickly tell where the ship is pointed. These designs he drew would not work well inside a game/film...but yet they felt so realistic....so who knows what they are for....??

-feng

hmmmm...similar to

 

[FengZ]

lol, yeah, i've very familiar w/ the 2001 spaceship (one of the films i had to study in school).

the sketches i saw were not this...i guess it's hard to describe the "other world' quality about them...really weird stuff... This 2001 ship is still "earth" like...w/ human proportions, shapes, details, etc.

anyways, i'm probably reading too much into it....lol

-feng

 

[KOM.Nausicaa]

The german nuke story is a fairytale.

But the Feng story is fascinating. BTW, Feng, watched some of your DVD's, cool stuff.

 

[Pauke! Pauke!]

Nazi Germany had a atomic bomb program but it did not progress as quickly or productively as the US Manhattan Project. The best minds had imigrated out of Europe prior to the war most to the United States. United States Public TV Nova had an intersting program about recovering German heavy water drums from a sunken railway ferry in a Norwegian Fjord. Here is a link to the program website. Some articles and a preview of the program are included.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hydro/

[YOUTUBE]SNzLHJKJRmk[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Lionheart]

What is different with heavy water?

I know its also called Deuterium (however thats spelled) and that with this you can cover radioactive equipment (such as a reactor core) and be able to see the reactor underwater with safety from bombardment. But what is different from the water?

Can you drink it? Is it like saline? What is the molecular construction?



Bill

 

[Willy]

Heavy Water:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water

Nazi Atomic Weapons research (aka: Virus House)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/virushouse.pdf

 

[gera]

Mussolini built the "Aeonautical study Center of the Regia Aeronuatica" in a city called Guidonia very near Rome. This was the most modern experimental site in the world and the first wind tunnel was built here. They also had the largest wave making tank where many hydroplane hulls were tested. Here the first jet was tested and many aeronautical experiments were the day to day activities. This place was as importat as Cape Canaveral was in its glory days....

 

[kilo delta]

Here the first jet was tested and many aeronautical experiments were the day to day activities.

I'd always thought that the first jet engine was tested and developed by Frank Whittle in Coventry (not far from my birthplace!)

 

[stiz]

yup, whittle designed the first jet engine all the way back in 1928, but was told it would never work!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Whittle

 

[dswo]

This sounds like Joseph Farrell's Reich Of The Black Sun: Nazi Secret Weapons & The Cold War Allied Legend (2006). -- For which the sober antidote is something like Richard Overy's Why the Allies Won (1995), chapter 7: "A War of Engines: Technology and Military Power."

Color me skeptical. During the war, Germany made relatively small investments in atomic energy and long-range bombers: they didn't even produce a Ural bomber, much less an America bomber. As for wind tunnels, the Wright Bros. were using those decades before Mussolini came to power. (You can see one now in the museum at Kitty Hawk.)

I don't say this out of disrespect for Axis technology. But their science was crippled, at one end by ideology, at another end by raw materials. They forced women, as well as Jews, out of the universities and they were chronically short of some not-very-exotic-substances like petroleum.

We should beware, also, of falling victim to the Nazi's own propaganda: we have secret new weapons that will turn the war around! Really! You shall see! In 1944, there was a surge of new research, but it was driven by panic and it was not focused. Science under the Nazis was surprisingly diversified (surprisingly, that is, for a totalitarian state). This sounds good, but in a war it can be costly. The German military had too many different machines for the same job, and getting spare parts a nightmare. Russia took the opposite approach: it manufactured a few, relatively low-tech designs in overwhelming quantity: e.g., the T-34 tank and its counterpart, the IL-2 tank killer.