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GM Post 9.6 Billion loss ...we need mo money

Tell you what I think. "We,.....the people" made the industry what it isn't today. All the bickering about what's good or bad is due to us....the consumer.
 
OleBoy said:
Tell you what I think. "We,.....the people" made the industry what it isn't today. All the bickering about what's good or bad is due to us....the consumer.
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Well... I have to say that good products have no bickering..


For instance, I havent heard a single complaint about the Toyota Prius.


I really think gm shoots themselves in the foot quite often. Im sorry to say. They crush all those cool electric cars because they dont want to see America going to electric vehicles... wrong move.. and now, years later, its a 'stupid move' that has intensified. They were on the edge of something great, and bang!!!!! (ouch.. my foot again!)



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On that aspect I tend to agree. My grandfather was a machinist, and very good at what he did. He warned me about the automotive industry turning tail on itself. Fighting for what is, instead of what can be. Years ago there was a man that invented an engine capable of pushing an old Packard down the road. While doing so, it exceeded 40 mpg. The automotive industry took hold of that engine/vehicles rights and buried it to be never heard of again. That time the industry won. Who would have ever believed that cars from the late 30's & 40's could have gotten gas mileage like the Toyota Prius today. It's true.

I can't remember the name of the man who invented it for the life of me. But the auto tycoons bought his garage built wonder up before the general public had chance to hear about it.
 
Interesting story. It doesn't surprise me that it went silent. The gas and/or automobile industry bought out the idea b4 it hit known testing. That alone would kill the auto industry, and more!!
 
OleBoy said:
Tell you what I think. "We,.....the people" made the industry what it isn't today. All the bickering about what's good or bad is due to us....the consumer.
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Very good point.
The only rationale behind the Europeans producing totally out of character SUVs was a perceived demand out of the US.
Audi, BMW, Porsche and VW managed to turn out oversized and overpriced (but superbly built) vehicles which had no reasonable place in any other market.
I had an opportunity to drive one of these monsters recently, weighing in a two tonnes and churning out some 600BHP DIN, available from your local Audi dealer now.
It reminded me of an upmarket M113 ..........insane.
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wombat666 said:
Very good point.
The only rationale behind the Europeans producing totally out of character SUVs was a perceived demand out of the US.
Audi, BMW, Porsche and VW managed to turn out oversized and overpriced (but superbly built) vehicles which had no reasonable place in any other market.
I had an opportunity to drive one of these monsters recently, weighing in a two tonnes and churning out some 600BHP DIN, available from your local Audi dealer now.
It reminded me of an upmarket M113 ..........insane.
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My brother had the V12 7 series Bimmer complete with armoured skin option. Extremely fast, even with all the weight... But why?

Was funny to open the hood and look inside. It was pure engine from the very edge of one side to the very edge of the other, front to rear. He had to jump the battery once. COuldnt find it, lolol.. Later, he found out it was under the rear passenger seat. Requires a special tool to flip open the seat to get to it.


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