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Good news for GMC Chrysler and Ford.

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Helldiver

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I have a had a revelation. This will solve all the auto makers’ problems. This epiphany came to me while trying to solve the nation’s dilemma. Not only will it provide jobs but even the Butcher, Baker and the Candlestick Maker will all benefit from it. Plus it will not cost the Government any extra money.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
All we have to do is to charge a $1,000 surcharge for every auto supplier whose name ends in “A”.<o:p></o:p>
That would be <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Toyota</st1:place></st1:City>, Honda, Mazda, Acura, KIA and Maxima. The $1,000 dollars would be then turned over to GMC, Chrysler and Ford to hold off bankruptcy.<o:p></o:p>
This being a Democracy, outfits like Nissan, Hundai and Subaru will be spared the surcharge.
Soon our factories will be humming and people will be back to work. As one man once stated, “What’s good for General Motors, is good for the <st1:country-region><st1:place>United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>”.<o:p></o:p>
 
A corporation being stupid and making goofy decisions does not help America.

gm killed the electric car a decade ago just because they couldnt make enough on it. It is probably the worst mistake they have made. Toyota is running with the ball and making cars that people want, and they are made by Americans, not Chinese.

Also, if gm takes 7 Billion American dollars (EDIT) 'every year' to stay in business and fuel their squadron of private jets to stay 'in the red' then perhaps we should pay that money to move them to China. Lets get manufacturers in here that will employ Americans and make a profit, 'and' (and) make cars we like and want.


My humble 2 cents worth.


Bill
 
I saw their new Camaro yesterday in a Walmart parking lot. What a wild looking machine! nice...

The last I heard, they werent going to make it and that the president of Chevy said he would need 'so many orders' from people to make it happen. Glad he did.

People like him and DeLorean were responsible for making great cars happen and making gm huge. gm fights their own people and customers..

arrghh.. man, I sound negative. (smacks self)
 
They will get out of it. Tommorrow's news on the new regulations... they want to start shooting for 35.5 mpg by 2016.

First though they need to get back on their feet and pay back the gov't pronto... otherwise we may really have Government Motors... ie see Russian cars. :monkies:
 
I'm a huge ford fan, but I'm tired of getting the shaft by American auto makers. I konw it's been said before, but it still blows my mind sometimes that GM, Chrysler and Ford are all foreign cars. The new Toyota full sized truck was designed and bulit in Texas, and they offer special editions to Texans who are proud of that. That truck is as American as it gets. What about GM's trucks? They're bulit in Mexico City. There's nothing American about them.

I don't owe anything to these American auto manufacturers, and neither does anyone else. They certainly haven't done me any favors. They've been cutting positions, making crappy vehicles, and soaking up my tax dollars for a while.

Helldiver, your idea is absolutely rediculous and about as unamerican as opinions come. Are you sure you're not a communist?:173go1: You want the government to redistribute profits and wealth instead of letting companies and people fail and succeed through performance?


Oh, and Maxima is not an auto manufacturer.:bump:
 
I would implement it on December 7th. - Remermber Pearl Harbor.
The Toyota may be made in Texas but the profits go to Toyota-San.
 
GM to Close 1100 Dealers

Large-scale dealership closing will result in the loss of 137,330 jobs.
May 18, 2009 1:19 PM

First it was Chrysler, which last week declared it would close 789 dealerships. Now, it's GM, upping the 'screw the little guy for the big guys' mistakes' ante to 1,100 dealership closings.
GM is downsizing as quickly as possible, hoping to save what it can of itself, and when its plan for dealer closings was rejected by the Obama administration back in February for not going far enough, GM knew it had to come up with something more drastic. And not just to impress its benefactor the US government, but because the writing had been on the wall for a long time and new CEO Fritz Henderson has finally come around to recognizing it.
GM will be cutting its dealership ranks by and additional 1,100 to 3,600 by next year. Down from the 5,969 dealers it had at the end of 2008, a total reduction of 40 percent. It has notified those dealers that are to close by letter and will have to buy back about 65,000 cars from them in order for them to step aside more readily.
About 400 to 500 dealerships will go by way of eliminating the Saab, Hummer and Saturn brands. GM expects the remaining dealers, the weakest performing ones, to close down voluntarily. 137,330 people will be losing their jobs.
GM is doing all this painful slashing in the hope of averting what now seems inevitable, following Chrysler into bankruptcy.

Cue the falling curtain. :USA-flag:
 
Well I must be part Jap,Nazi,Chinese, cus I stop buying American cars years ago. The last one was a Dodge Ram in 89 and that was it.The wife and I have been buying Honda's. The last eight that we have owned, never had a problem. Only thing we had to do is change the oil and tires. The two Chev's I owned spent more time in the shop than on the road.The Fords weren't any different. My company in the last two years brought 1762 Chev vans. We have been buying Ford's for the last twenty years but they lost our contract. The 09 Chev van I got has been in the shop 11 times, the 08 van wasn't any different. The other techs have the same problems too. We also brought some Dodge Sprinter vans. They are large and drive like a tank....the first three that were delivered to our unit by trailer had to be towed to the dealership because they wouldn't start. They stayed in the shop for 2 weeks. Once the techs got all the parts and tools on the truck...within two weeks all three had to be put back in the shop...what does this tell you. We have emailed different service units in different areas in the country and they also report the same problems we are having. The electrical problems we have had with the Chev. van are unreal. There is nothing like being out in BFE and the van breaks down. This new one I got .....the first day I drove it, one of the oil lines snapped by the steering shaft and next thing I noticed I had zero oil pressure...I had 52 miles on it. The dealership had to order the part. They said it was routed to close to the shaft and when I turned the wheel it snapped off. Guess what...90 % of these vans had the same problem We have 6700 service techs at A&E and when we pull a van off the road for a couple of weeks it kills us. The tech has to do service calls in a empty truck with no parts on it until he gets his back. In Feb. we had so many of these so called new trucks break down we didn't have enough spare trucks to go around..what do you do then :monkies:...Mike
 
Lionheart said:
... Toyota is running with the ball and making cars that people want, ...
Click to expand...

Sorry Bill, Toyota will never make a car that I want ...

Nor none of the rest of them regardless that they are now made in the states by American citizens ...
 
Everyone needs to make sure what these quality surveys are about.

As far as I can tell, JD powers only ranks initial quality (rolling off the assembly line) at worst, or well within the warranty period at best.
All this tells me is how they rank on Quality control and perhaps the quality of the assembly workers.

All the manufacturers are about the same for quality within the first three years (Chrysler being a notable exception, lower quality than the rest).
The REAL question is, how they are AFTER the warranty period and this is where the big divergence comes in. Toyota, Honda and even Ford now at the high end (for LEAST problems), GM mid-range, Chrysler at the bottom again.

So what does this mean? Most of 'em are doing great QC now, but some have better engineered products that have fewer problems over a lifetime.

None of this matters if you are leasing (I don't). But a lot of people do and never get to see the problems that vehicles bring when they get older or the cost savings either.

Oh and whatever happened to the doom and gloom about 1 in 10 jobs being affected if GM and Chrysler went bankrupt? Seems like the numbers are well below this.
 
After six months and 17,000 miles I still love my GMC Acadia. The only problem I have had is a simi-bad air pressure sensor on the right rear wheel.

My wife also loves her 2008 Honda CRV.

So, I guess we are a mixed marriage. :bump:
 
Yeah, GM screwed up big time with electric car. Now, if this company can make an electric car with up to a 300 mile range and be a sports car too, why in h3ll can't the Not So Big 3 make an affordable electric car for everyone?

The only thing that kills the this electric car is the price. But if I could ever afford one, it would be in my driveway for sure.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

Bill, on another forum a few Chebbie Camaro guys have seen this "new" Camaro and say it's an over priced piece of crap. Dealers are marking up it's price by $20,000 in some instances. No wonder GM is going under. Same for Chrysler and Ford ding the same for some of their cars.
 
when i came to canada i gave away an 87 toyota tercel that had almost 200k on the clock. it ran like a sewing machine, and never had a rebuild. i've owned many american cars, and never once have i owned one that i could say that about. frankly, i don't care how well ford makes their cars. i would never drive one if you gave it to me. they support ideas i disagree with big time. i won't support them because of it.
 
We can thank the unions for the demise of the American car companies. How long did they think this could go on? Pay and benefits until you die? Do that math. Contrary to what governments and union members believe, money really doesn’t grow on trees. It has to be created. In this case by building cars that people buy. If the amount of money you’re spending on pay and benefits keeps increasing at a steady rate over time while the amount of money you take in as profits on car sales is steady – well, how long until the company ceases to exist? For American car companies, the time has, apparently, come.

I have 93,000 miles on my Toyota Tundra and have never had a problem of any sort. I plan to keep it for a whikle longer.
 
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