Hawaii?
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But what always has been blatantly missing ( and still does in MSFS2024 ! ) is the SENSE OF SPEED that you'd normally get flying thru clouds in the real world. Said it before, there has been only ONE FS version that had that much needed (IMHO) effect worked out beautifully : MS Flight ! Boy! How i loved that !
I certainly don't wanna rain on everybody's parade but if you have experienced flying thru clouds in MS Flight, in MSFS2024 it's an extremely poor presentation of this very significant aviation related phenomenon, not to say it doesn't even exists. That very MS Flight development team proved it can be done. Why MSAsobo did not even try to take a shot at it is rather shameful.
Flying thru clear and clean air is one thing, flying thru clouds is like John Gleese already said ages ago "and now for something completely different !"
modelr
SOH-CM-2024
Javis, have you ever flown through clouds in real life? I have a little, just entering the bottoms and dropping right back out. What I saw was basically the same as driving in spotty fog, it's there, it's not. Clear spots pop up suddenly, and just as quickly they are gone. The only "movement" I ever see is the condensation on the windscreen. I never flew in MS Flight, so I don't know what you were experiencing. What I was seeing, and experiencing in my flight over Hawaii in low, broken clouds was what I had seen in R/L. When I climbed up through a hole, and then back down, the wisps were truely cottonlike, not 2d pictures nor hard edges, but just like fog, which is low clouds in reality. I guess it depends on the aircraft, and the type of clouds.
Well, i have flown all over the world, Don, not as a pilot but as a passenger, while it's been many many years ago i still remember exactly that, flying thru the clouds either climbing or descending or both. If you're not sitting right next to a window or you couldn't care less about it you'd probabely never even noticed but i would always move heaven and earth to sit at a window and preferably at a position to be able to see the wing/engine(s) from the back. Always lot's going on there. Despite the sometimes way too long, kinda boring flights, i mostly enjoyed myself there at my favourite window seat behind the wing. ;-)
The sense of speed as we would climb or descent thru the clouds to get above the deck or underneath it is the experience i vividly remember most.
Because i was a passenger (not always.... i was in a band and we toured the Dutch Antilles in a DC-3 of which the 2nd Officer we only saw once or twice. Guess who took the honneurs when he was not around... ;-) i mostly saw the clouds pass by from the side and that's just where you get that sense of speed the most. In an airliner that'll be around 450 knots at which speed the water particles will pass you by at only a few inches away from your eyes. A sight never to forget atleast i never did. Something like this :
I cannot say that this is exactly the way you could experience it virtually in MS Flight but they gave it a try and very good try it was too ! I am certainly not under the impression that we're ever going to see something like what can be seen in the video but i was already very happy with what i saw regarding clouds passing by at considerable speed in MS Flight and that's just something absolutely missing in MSFS2024. I guess it must deffinately be a completely different approach compared to what it has always been in any other FS version and, still, in FS24 as well. They got the floatplane water spout effect quite right this time so maybe MSFS 2028, éh ? Let's drink to that !
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modelr
SOH-CM-2024
I stand corrected with a smile on my face. I haven't gone to the tops of the clouds in FS2024 yet. I also got to sit near the window in a couple airliners, about 50 years ago, when I was in the service. However, most of our flights were at night. I do remember my flight from San Francisco to San Antonio, Texas, in a 727 at night. We flew through a thunderstorm somewhere over New Mexico, and it was spectacular, that I do remember. Nowadays I get to fly right seat in an Aircoupe, so we don't go near the clouds. But I did ride along in a Cessna 182 just up into the bottom of a cloud and back out just to see the thickness. That is what I was doing in my flight over Hawaii in the sim. I will need to try going up higher and playing in the tops. The only thing I can say so far, is that the clouds are way better than in FSX and P3D!Well, i have flown all over the world, Don, not as a pilot but as a passenger, while it's been many many years ago i still remember exactly that, flying thru the clouds either climbing or descending or both. If you're not sitting right next to a window or you couldn't care less about it you'd probabely never even noticed but i would always move heaven and earth to sit at a window and preferably at a position to be able to see the wing/engine(s) from the back. Always lot's going on there. Despite the sometimes way too long, kinda boring flights, i mostly enjoyed myself there at my favourite window seat behind the wing. ;-)
The sense of speed as we would climb or descent thru the clouds to get above the deck or underneath it is the experience i vividly remember most.
Because i was a passenger (not always.... i was in a band and we toured the Dutch Antilles in a DC-3 of which the 2nd Officer we only saw once or twice. Guess who took the honneurs when he was not around... ;-) i mostly saw the clouds pass by from the side and that's just where you get that sense of speed the most. In an airliner that'll be around 450 knots at which speed the water particles will pass you by at only a few inches away from your eyes. A sight never to forget atleast i never did. Something like this :
I cannot say that this is exactly the way you could experience it virtually in MS Flight but they gave it a try and very good try it was too ! I am certainly not under the impression that we're ever going to see something like what can be seen in the video but i was already very happy with what i saw regarding clouds passing by at considerable speed in MS Flight and that's just something absolutely missing in MSFS2024. I guess it must deffinately be a completely different approach compared to what it has always been in any other FS version and, still, in FS24 as well. They got the floatplane water spout effect quite right this time so maybe MSFS 2028, éh ? Let's drink to that !
Definitely like the water effects better! have not seen any screenshots of roostertails from highspeed, low flying jets, yet. That I have seen in R/L. I want that!
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
The big things that MSFS 2024 brings that will make your experience flying around Hawaii different than '2020 include the much more detailed elevation mesh, displacement mapping, detailed cliff faces, much more detailed vegetation, fauna, better clouds and live weather, and better flight dynamics.
Here are some shots from Maui (no addons):
Here are some shots from Maui (no addons):
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Some shots of Oahu (no addons):
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
And finally some shots from the big island/Hawaii (no addons):
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
You're correct, Priller, and the last shot is just on the other side of the mountains from Dillingham. A really beautiful place to fly in the sim.
Thanks for the screenshots Bomber - I'm convinced. thinking I'll install on Tuesday.
It is! Since FSX, it's been my place to go to to fly pacific era warbirds!
The layout is a bit different compared to the one depicted in the one of payware addons for the legacy sims. But having never been there in RL, I can't judge the accuracy!
Priller
