Heinkel He 177
- Thread starter noddy
- Start date
YoYo
SOH-CM-2023
jankees
SOH-CM-2024
I have lots of freeware that looks much better than this...below freeware quality I would say
, just thought it might have been of interest.
DennyA
SOH-CM-2023
If you check out the creator's YouTube channel, you'll see he's passionate about aviation and trying to make the planes as accurate as he can with his skillset and art/audio resources.
I have his Zero pack, and he's since added a Kate and a Val as free upgrades. No, it's not anywhere near the same class as, say, MilViz or Flying Iron. BUT, the planes do fly well, and while they lack some details, they're still fun to fly.
He's also released some freeware (He-163).
I'm saddened by the MSFS user base's immediate dismissal of any "simpler" planes, because that limits our selection of aviation history in the sim. It would be nice for customers to at least have the option to buy simpler planes if it's model they're interested in that's otherwise not available.
For instance, I'd love to have Virtavia's aircraft in MSFS, even at current detail levels, even if they just updated the model format and flight models to MSFS standards. Sure, I'd love to see every one of those planes at full MSFS detail, but that's not realistic. A simpler F7U Cutlass is better than no F7U Cutlass. If you don't enjoy lower-detail models, you can just choose not to buy them.
Are we really better off as sim players that the MS Forum reaction caused Golden Age Simulations to choose not to support the platform, rather than continuing to offer their niche planes as a low-priced option for MSFS users? Personally I don't think so.
If the prices are low and the creators supply enough information and screen shots for buyers to make informed judgements, it would be nice if the Internet Quality Police would be a bit less negative towards these options being available.
Personally, I'll pass on the He-177 because I'm not interested enough in the plane to spend $18 on a lower-detail aircraft. (Same as I'm not interested enough in a BAE 146 to spend $70 on a high-detail version.) But if he does one of the planes I'd love to see in the sim that I'm unlikely to see any time soon -- a Vickers Wellington, a Fleet Finch, an F4D Skyray, etc -- I'll happily pay for a lower-detail model as long as I know what I'm getting.
I have his Zero pack, and he's since added a Kate and a Val as free upgrades. No, it's not anywhere near the same class as, say, MilViz or Flying Iron. BUT, the planes do fly well, and while they lack some details, they're still fun to fly.
He's also released some freeware (He-163).
I'm saddened by the MSFS user base's immediate dismissal of any "simpler" planes, because that limits our selection of aviation history in the sim. It would be nice for customers to at least have the option to buy simpler planes if it's model they're interested in that's otherwise not available.
For instance, I'd love to have Virtavia's aircraft in MSFS, even at current detail levels, even if they just updated the model format and flight models to MSFS standards. Sure, I'd love to see every one of those planes at full MSFS detail, but that's not realistic. A simpler F7U Cutlass is better than no F7U Cutlass. If you don't enjoy lower-detail models, you can just choose not to buy them.
Are we really better off as sim players that the MS Forum reaction caused Golden Age Simulations to choose not to support the platform, rather than continuing to offer their niche planes as a low-priced option for MSFS users? Personally I don't think so.
If the prices are low and the creators supply enough information and screen shots for buyers to make informed judgements, it would be nice if the Internet Quality Police would be a bit less negative towards these options being available.
Personally, I'll pass on the He-177 because I'm not interested enough in the plane to spend $18 on a lower-detail aircraft. (Same as I'm not interested enough in a BAE 146 to spend $70 on a high-detail version.) But if he does one of the planes I'd love to see in the sim that I'm unlikely to see any time soon -- a Vickers Wellington, a Fleet Finch, an F4D Skyray, etc -- I'll happily pay for a lower-detail model as long as I know what I'm getting.
Last edited:
Stickshaker
SOH-CM-2023
Well said, DennyA! I completely agree.
Any Train Simulator (Railworks) avocado's here ?... No ??....
OhKay. Before i closed the doors of my TS steamlocs shed for good out of boredom BeeKay was a 'brandname' for us clickety-clack fans, churning out more or less excellent, usually German steam-, diesel and electric locomotives one after the other. I spend many enjoyable hours with the fruits of BeeKay's hard labour (IIRC all his stuff was freeware). So it seems Bernd got bored of the ol' smoke belchers himself and changed them for a couple of wings and propellers and changed his sandwich board from "Romantic Railroads" to "Romantic Wings". Well, good for him !
I am from the nitpickety camp myself so as far as BeeKay is concerned i can only wish him all the best with his new endeavor. If there's anything as much different from a steam locomotive it sure is an aeroplane.
Hals und Beinbruch BeeKay !
OhKay. Before i closed the doors of my TS steamlocs shed for good out of boredom BeeKay was a 'brandname' for us clickety-clack fans, churning out more or less excellent, usually German steam-, diesel and electric locomotives one after the other. I spend many enjoyable hours with the fruits of BeeKay's hard labour (IIRC all his stuff was freeware). So it seems Bernd got bored of the ol' smoke belchers himself and changed them for a couple of wings and propellers and changed his sandwich board from "Romantic Railroads" to "Romantic Wings". Well, good for him !
I am from the nitpickety camp myself so as far as BeeKay is concerned i can only wish him all the best with his new endeavor. If there's anything as much different from a steam locomotive it sure is an aeroplane.
Hals und Beinbruch BeeKay !
Hey Denny!
