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Help me to make up my mind

Alabeo / Carenado = god mode..?

Do you mean that these models can be flown through the ground?...buildings..?...they walk on water?...turn that water to wine?...expect unconditional love?...something along those lines?

I dunno about that - but I like 'em anyway

I have A2A Cherokee, Piper Cub and C172 - they have the walk around, Accusim, and the other A2A enhancements, but it all comes with a (slight) penalty in performance (except for the Cub) making them, on my rig anyway, fair weather flyers only. And honestly - I don't mind changing the plugs and engine oil once in a while...but I don't NEED to do it either..to enjoy my flight simming experience


With Alabeo / Carenado - I can fly in almost all weather with no FPS problems at all.
Not wanting to change the OP's subject - just wondering again why, whenever this question is asked, Carenado / Alabeo get short shrift...is it because they ONLY do civilian GA ?

My apologies, God Mode is a reference to common combat games, first person shooters...etc. It simply means that your character in the game can't die, no matter what you do. This is not a putdown of Alabeo, it is a choice.

In those combat games, you can choose to play in god in 'God Mode' or not. We have the same choice in FSX. Take the Carenado Seneca, an unpressurized twin, up to FL180 with no oxygen system...nothing happens. Take an Accusimmed Spitfire to FL180, take off the oxy mask...watch what happens. Exceed flap speeds, ignore systems checks, don't pay attention to flashing red lights in the Alabeo/Carenado...nothing happens, do those things in an accusimmed plane and see what happens....quite a difference. Start the engine on a cold or hot day, with engine cold or hot....Alabeo/Carenado....starts the same every single time.....Accusim, you better pay attention to ambient temp, whether the engine has been run before, oil type...etc

Again this is not a slight against Alabeo/Carenado....it is a choice I quite enjoy the Alabeo Waco. We flightsimmers have MANY choices There is nothing wrong with flying in a 'no consequence' environment. I enjoy no consequence flying too. I enjoy breaking FAA regulations in FSX LOL. F:censored:k the draconian noise abatement procedures that we have to put up with in real life flying:biggrin-new:

Alabeo/Carenado represent complete 'no consequence' flying. A2A represents the other end of that spectrum, where all the decisions you make in the airplane have consequences. The other developers are somewhere in between that spectrum. You get to pick whatever styles as you want, 'God mode' or not, whatever works best for you.

Cheers
TJ
 
Although the Carenado planes aren't particularly advanced, I still love them. They're perfect for that occasional relaxation flight where you just wanna fly around, admire scenery, get that $100 burger (unless you're in a twin. then I suppose it would be a $250 burger!!! :dejection:). Some of the models have many innaccuracies, but you can still accomplish a cross-country instrument flight if you want, flight characteristics are pretty good to just alright, depending on which plane you're talking about. The big reason I keep coming back to them though is that they will do planes no other developer has touched. I haven't seen anyone else develop a Seneca, a Cessna 340, or the C337, or the Piper Malibu family. (as far as I know, no one else has done these)
 
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Thanks, everyone. I think I have made my choice. I will keep my credit card deep in my pocket. I don't buy airplanes just for to give them a try. There seems to be nothing in this category worth spending my money. Quite odd.

C441 was a close call, but with the poor looking graphics, it's not worth that price, IMHO. And no European repaints. If I find it on sale someday, it could be another story.

C402. Well, if not 441, why then the 402.

Alabeo Titan. People do have issues with autopilot, among other things.

Carenado? I did like the C185, but then I was sorry to buy c208 and b1900d, which were waste of money.

A2A Comanche is great, for sure. But, as already mentioned, it is not in the category what I was searhing.
 
Kiki, what kind of flying were you planning on doing with your new plane anyway? In the real world, your "mission" parameters dictate what kind of plane you should be looking at. For instance, I do regular high altitude flights in IMC that can be anywhere from 800 miles to clear across the country. I'm always using the C441, the F1 B200, Piaggio P180, or a Sukhoi 80 if I wanna imagine I'm bringing the car along:encouragement:
 
Kiki, what kind of flying were you planning on doing with your new plane anyway? In the real world, your "mission" parameters dictate what kind of plane you should be looking at. For instance, I do regular high altitude flights in IMC that can be anywhere from 800 miles to clear across the country. I'm always using the C441, the F1 B200, Piaggio P180, or a Sukhoi 80 if I wanna imagine I'm bringing the car along:encouragement:

I wanted an aeroplane that would carry up to 10 customers:adoration: or some cargo in the distance of...anything from 50 to 500 nm. And no jets, plz, but above the clouds. And, yes, faster than Twin Otter.
 
You might be interested in Milton Shupe's Howard 500 in the Warbirds library. Can also be found on Simviation. The one here that comes with the two black and grey color schemes has better sound, IMO. It has great range, can carry 10 people (I think), and can keep up with some of the turboprops (like my SUkhoi 80 :p). ONly downsides are that its not FSX native, and the VC textures are pretty rough by our standards now, but the everything else works great! easy airplane to fly too. And the best part, ITS TOTALLY FREE!!!!!
It can also fly into flight levels too because it is pressurized, so you won't need the nose tubes or O2 masks :p Great plus for passengers, ESPECIALLY paying passengers
 
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