High Road to France!

Ralf Roggeveen

Charter Member
I recently bought the EAGLE annual 1962 which includes an article about Silver City Airways and their Bristol Freighter flights from Lydd/Ferryfield to Paris-Plage/Le Touquet. These started in 1948 and were extremely expensive at £27 one way, 'all right for movie stars, maharajahs and millionaires, but beyond the means of the average family who wanted a holiday in Europe with their car.' as the EAGLE put it. But the service proved so popular that it quickly expanded, helped by the British government which allowed it to become scheduled, not just private hire. They got it down to just £2 (still quite a lot of money in the early '60s, but no longer prohibitive). You could also take a bicycle for 2/6 (about 25c US!). EAGLE 1962 informs us that 'today it is not unusual to find ferry aircraft taking off and landing every four minutes from dawn to dusk on a busy summer's day.'

A definite for late '50s/early '60s fs9!

You can get the old Mike Stone B170 which is in Instone livery. Jim Cartner has done a nice repaint to Silver City in tribute to his father who flew the real thing. A wonderful tribute.

Can't seem to open up the front cargo doors, which is a shame. On Rick Piper's brilliant HS Argosy, as you see in the screenies, that is possible. The other problem with the B170 is that you can't put any cargo weight into it, so have to fly empty (correct me if I'm wrong, anybody!). So it's a bit wobbly, though only about 20 minutes over to Le Touquet, climbing to 8000. Note that although it's called Paris-Plage, 'Paris Beach' is nowhere near Paris the city, it's right on the English Channel coast, a very easy approach to Runway 14.

Two pictures from some other old books: One is a general view with, I think, the later, larger Superfreighters. note that the aircraft have i/d letters, so they must have said 'Drive to plane J, Sir' to the passengers! A rather lonely-looking fellow in a Jag - hope he's got a sexy French girlfriend waiting for him on the other side. The other photo shows a Bristol car (404?) going onto the Bristol aeroplane, which is nice.

Then there are three cartoons by Russell Brockbank, who obviously appreciated the surrealism of this service. I believe a lot of people actually went for gambling, then completely illegal in the UK, but there was a casino at Le Touquet. This is remembered because a certain James Bond went there - by Silver City of course, with his trusty Aston. Brockbank also confirms the presence of bicycles! Note that he hasn't advertised Silver City, but could only put 'Cross Channel Airways' on his beautifully-drawn freighters.

I did go on the sleeper trains (Wagons Lits) across the Channel (and flew to Paris and Nice in VC-10s and Caravelles) as a kid, but unfortunately never went with Silver City. The service lasted until 1970.

It's interesting that these short-haul aircraft AND hovercraft have come & gone across the English Channel, now we have the Tunnel, but still passenger ferry ships are the most popular way to go - as they have been for centuries.
 
Shift E 2 opens the Front entrance

Shift E opens the passenger side door and Shift E 2 opens the Front end. I did have problems in the past but it turned out to be specific to my machine. The Bristol works as designed (door wise) smile... BTW: I enjoy flying this one a lot!! Thank you for the neat pictures and all the backround info on its history.

Take care

Ed
 
Shift E does open the side, but not so sure about Shift E2 for the front with the Bristol... The Argosy doors always work beautifully by clicking on the cockpit emergency lights, 2D & virtual - that model is a work of art in every way. :applause::applause::applause:
 
It does work, I loaded up FS9 and the bristol 170 - did the SHIFT E and 2 together and it still works. When it did not work for me it was because my system was screwed up and had four files that were somehow just gone. Ran a registery fix program and IDed the missing and bad registery keys, and viola the doors on all the models opened again and the mouse cursor would allow me to move the display aircraft just prior to loading.... there were many little oddities none of which were fatal but all in all - there were 300 plus registery problems on my system!!! The Model - Bristol 170 is quite ok and works well.

All the best.

Ed
 
Nice shots and photo's! :applause:

Anyone noticed the Bristol driving into the Bristol..? (Wonder if this photo was maybe taken at Bristol?)

Of course the German had a similar concept car transporter years before the British started to ferry cars across the channel, but of course this was not a civil airline but rather a more uncivilised use of air tranport!
 
Get well soon to Garry Russell! :)

Superfreighter would be excellent. Can anyone fit the ramp too?

And where's that registry fix program? (Sounds useful).
 
Ralf,

I used this one: www.regcure.com At the site you can get a free scan and decide if you want to buy it.... sigh - never free. There are many Reg repair programs - this is just one of many. Mileage varies.

Good luck.
Ed
 
Thanks Ed! They just got my $40 & I ran the full scan & clean-up, so will see if I can now get those Bristol doors open...

(Regcure should give you a discount for bringing in other customers!)
 
Shift E2 still doesn't work on the B170! :mad:

It makes control windows appear. Can open the main side door with Shift E, but my cargo doors remain firmly closed...
 
Shift E2 still doesn't work on the B170! :mad:

It makes control windows appear. Can open the main side door with Shift E, but my cargo doors remain firmly closed...

it's Shift+E (release, then...) 2 ... I can't remember the exact timing but the Shift+E (simultaneous) has to be followed within a few fractions of a second by the "2". Timing is everything... too long a pause and it senses the 2 alone, too light a keypress on the "E" and it misses it and reads Shift+2 which is one of the popup windows.

Just to be sure you can check - open the aircraft .cfg file in Notepad, scroll down... way down .. and look for this:

[exits]
number_of_exits = 2
exit_rate.0 = 0.4 ;Percent per second
exit_rate.1 = 0.4 ;Percent per second


If it's missing, then just copy/paste this into the aircraft.cfg file, save it and try again.

Shift+E is a pretty conventional "exit" open/close while the other exits ( if enabled) are usually Shift+E 2/3/4 although some modelers have used thinks like the tailhook command or the Concorde Visor commands for things like Cargo Doors or engine cowls.

Rob
 
Useful info, will try again with that advice. This is one reason Rick Piper's Argosy is so good - you can open cargo doors via their emergency lights. Presumably in reality all these doors had to be opened manually!
 
Ralf, did you ever get the doors open?

In case you didn't, or want an alternative, try this at AvSim:

http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=137833
[FONT=verdana, sans-serif]File Description:
This is a small gauge to operate the doors via button click - at least the doors moving normally pressing CTRL+E+"a digit", wing fold or tail hook. There are three versions of the gauge inside the archive - one for every taste.
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Note the error about CTRL+E+... I haven't checked the gauge but it should, of course, be SHIFT+E+

Rob
 
Ralf

You will be wanting these when Garry Russell releases them

:)

and ALL the doors work - and the there is a ramp - and there will be typical loads for them when complete.

Oh yes - these shots are of the PRE-Beta models -- the version he left us with is far superior already although

not ready for public consumption -- it comes with a Fraser Mckay panel that will knock your socks off.



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By the way for those who are interested Garry is mending well and hopefully will be home soon -- If you wish to send your well wishes
may I suggest you post them at Classic British Flight Sim - he's there almost daily since they let him have a laptop at the hospital.


Cheers

Leif
 
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