KC,
Thanks for the explanations. It is fascinating, as Worthless says, and we also learn a few things from you...
Seeing that you live in Italy, may I also ask if you are Italian? And if so, how come you write such excellent English?
Thanks to both of you, it's always a pleasure for me talking about a subject which fascinated me for the last 30+ years of my life and still does. I think I own one of the most comprehensive collection of Celtic history/culture books written in Italian, plus some in English.
Yes I am Italian, even if sometimes I have doubts about it. Up here we are very different from the
"wass-the-matta-you" stereotypes known abroad and in the US. When I was first taken to an Italian restaurant in N.Y., I could not explain the reason why they had "spaghetti and meatballs" as the biggest thing on their menu, I had never seen it or heard about it before then. It is not part of our traditional cuisine, anyway.
This is dairy country, big on cheese, butter and pork meat air-cured, salted specialities like "Parmesan Ham". "Parmesan" cheese was, obviously, created here, the province of Parma. Rami and Jagdflieger had a taste of our cuisine when they visited me and they both looked as they enjoyed a lot what I had ordered for them at the restaurant. But they could not identify what they were eating at first, because they had never seen it in American-Italian restaurants!
Oh, B.T.W.: I love traditional Greek cuisine! Tsatsiki, dolmadakia, suvlaki and spanakopita......mmmmmmmm.....
As to my English, thank you again for your comments, I enjoy a lot speaking, writing and reading it. I studied it for 8 years throughout junior high and high school, then I was lucky enough to spend almost ten years of my life in the US.
May I ask you why do you keep addressing me as KC? Shouldn't it be KH or am I missing something?
We might be in a similar boat, as I am Greek and my English is also very good--but I studied English and Ancient Greek literature in Greece and then continued with a second degree in American poetry in the USA, in Oregon, and worked as a teacher of English all my life.I also wrote a lot of poetry in English. I have had poems published in the US, Canada, South Africa, Greece and France...Added to that I have worked as a translator and writer of all types of texts, even aviation texts, in English, on the side for some extra income, so I have had a lot of experience in the language--which explains my skills in it.
I also speak and write French very well (having lived in Paris for 4 years and having had a good French teacher at highschool for 4 years before that), and can speak basic Russian, as I married a Russian woman, and I can get by in Italian and Spanish.
From my teaching, I do know for a fact that foreign languages are an in-born talent and some people learn fast while others are very slow or nil.
Good for you! I am quite impressed by multi-lingual people like you. Since my girlfriend took me to Paris several times already, and she wants to go back every year, I am studying a little bit of French myself and I already understand it much more than I can reply properly.
My language experience is similar to yours. I was involved in teaching Italian in adult education courses, when I moved to the U.S., and I obtained a simultaneous interpreter certification from the New York Supreme Court, where I did interpreting work in a few legal proceedings involving elderly Italians, who could not speak fluent English.
There, I experienced once again the deep difference between Northern and Southern Italians. The Italian people I was interpreting for, spoke to me in their native Sicilian and Calabrian dialects and I could not make out a single word of what they were saying!
I had a tough time explaining to the judge that in Italy dialects are not as they are perceived in the U.S., where they call "dialect" a simple Southern accent, which is just a different way to pronounce an English word. Our dialects are structured languages with their own grammar rules and vocabulary. Up here we all sound like French or even Germans,
(actually there is solid proof that Northern Italian dialects are so close to the French language just because they have the same origin, that is Latin grafted onto the Celtic tongue spoken locally before Roman conquer), while in the deep south they sound like ancient Greeks or even Albanians. A very common comment, I kept hearing from people when I lived in the US, is that
"I do not sound like an Italian when I speak English".
You can imagine how embarrassed I was, fortunately the judge accepted my example of our dialects compared to official Italian being as different as Cajun or Caribbean Creole languages can be to official English, or even Gaelic in Ireland and Scotland. Quite slowly, but I was able to do my job as the Italian seniors did understand me somewhat when I spoke to them in Italian!
I think the inborn capacity of learning languages has a lot do with ear, meaning musical. Basically, all of the musicians I met were all very good at learning a foreign language, while tone-deaf people have a very tough time discerning different sounds than usual. If you think about it, a language is made up by sounds, voice modulations that become words, just like a piece of music. If one can figure out and play a song just by listening to it, the same listen-analyse-and-reproduce mental process comes into place when imitating another language.
......Is that you in that plane in your avatar image?
Yes. A very good friend of mine, who knows the other insane passion of mine I have for flight, gifted me with a few real flight lessons few years ago. My avatar picture was taken right before my first takeoff with a Cessna 172.
As I already wrote several times on these pages, you wouldn't believe how the countless hours I spent in front of Microsoft flight simulators, combat and civilian alike, came to my aid. Understanding the dynamics of flight, how the controls work, identifying dials, gauges, starting the engine, flight patterns around the airport and more, all fell into place once I sat down in the cockpit.
The flight instructor asked me whether I was joking, when I stated I had never piloted an aircraft before! The only two things I was not too familiar with were the kicks in the rear-end I got, when I flew through windy air turbulences, and carrying on a proper radio protocol with the control tower.
Cheers!
KH 