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I got Vista troubles, real bad.

Helldiver said:
Mike, I really love your hearing aids. Would they work in the United States? I sent an IM
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Helldiver, I have a special one now, the old one's were kind of hard to use in the car, you would not believe how much wind those things caught...lol I went and got myself a Cochlear Implant, real neat device, looks like a regualr hearing aid, but that is the only thing it has in common, wonderful device, I had my Audie program it to remove the mother in laws voice completely... Love this technology, the only draw back is when I fly now I set off most of the security scanners at the airports, seems they find the magnet implanted in my skull darn near every time... Oh well the last guard that patted me down was cute anyway :icon_lol:

I just sent you an eMail with some instructions on using the UBCD, hoep it helps, if you have problems with them let me know.
 
I sent you the wrong address. I've since corrected it. Not only am I'm hard of hearing but I'm also going blind.
It's always something, as you slide down the razor blade of life.
 
Helldiver said:
No one has access to my computer except my wife and she can't figger out how to turn it on.
The only thing was, as I was shutting it down, Windows intterupted it with four updates. One of them must have been the darn password gimmick.
I truly do hate Microsoft.
They steal your money and then give you nothing but angina.


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Not necessarily a password gimmick. When I recently got a new box with Vista 64 I had the boot drive fail after an auto-update scenario before I could get around (trouble finding with all the unnecessary changes to where things were located and what they were called and interpreting instructions on how to turn things off in Vista) to turning off the automatic updates feature. I don't allow anything automatic with any version of Windows, never have. I always do updates manually.

I had to send the 7 day old box back for service, would not boot, a blank black screen. I think, if I remember correctly, it installed software or driver updates to the MOBO that precipitated (along with some other issues no doubt) the complete failure of the system. It all happened so fast it was like watching a car accident in slow motion and being unable to do anything about it. Totally insane.

I have also noticed that updates occur differently on Vista than with XP. After the updates are downoaded I reboot, as the shutdown phase is occurring it takes maybe 20 to 30 seconds longer than usual and a screen appears showing certain aspects of the downloaded patches being executed (? I'm guessing here). As the the machine is booting up another screen appears telling me it's configuring something ( The updates, Malicious Tool process?). That normally takes another 20 to 30 seconds or less and then on to the desktop.

You have to be patient while this stuff is happening. Vista's functional response are slower/different from XP's, at least that's been my experience.

Many people have no problems with auto updates, I've never had anything but problems with it (Vista or XP).

My 8 step mantra for Vista:
1. Make sure your the Administrator
2. Turn off Defender
3. Turn off UAC
4. Turn off Aero
5. Turn off Automatic Updates
6. Turn off Indexing
7. Turn off System Restore (Optional - depends on how "lucky" your
feeling.
8. Shut down the Security Center.

(As gleened from others who know significantly more about these things than I do)

I'm down to 29 (so far) Processes at start up and running "stock" FSX Accel at 60 FPS most situations with high slider settings, 1% or less variation in the countryside, 3% or so variation in city settings. (Everyone's mileage will vary.)

I use my home PC's for FS and FS related activities only. No surfing pron sights, no on line banking, no business related activities, no ripping/burning of discs, no digital photography stuff, no need for 75% of the bloatware that Vista would run if I let it.

Again, these are my experiences only, with Vista I had to take charge or it would run roughshod all over me. It doesn't seem to be interested in working with you regardless of what the ads imply. Hopefully this will be corrected when they update Vista to Win7.
 
Well FLight 01, those eight steps sound like there great to do but you fail to tell how you do them. I'd love to be administrator of my own machine but Vista resists it.
I remember that Vista decided to install updates to the computer with the password. There was five of them with the note "Do not shut off your computer. We'll do it for you." It took a half hour for the update.
The only thing is I have a master switch which turns of the computer, printer and othe accessories and so I had to wait until 12:30 for it would quit installing. Bloody thoughtless of Vista.
 
Helldiver, I resent the UBCD instruction to the proper eMail address, I also have a few easy to follow tweak guides for vista if you want them, while I agree with most of the 8 steps, I am not a big fan of using the Administrator account for normal every day access to any system. One of the big improvements in system security with XP Pro and even more improved in Vista is the User Accounts, yes they are a bit of a PITA, but keep in mind if you are running on a limited account and you get infected with any malware that malware has limited access to your system and in many cases can't even install it's payload. If you always run as an administrator and pick up a bug you just gave it the key to the vault...

BTW I just spent 2 weeks from HELL cleaning up a nasty little bug from our corporate network, SPAM-BOT.OQ I worked over 80 hours each of the past 2 weeks. We have locked down desktops so it was not as bad as it could have been. I did trace the main outbreak to a shipping system from a vendor that was set to use the Administrator account for normal access, now it's set to NO ACCESS to the corporate network, of course the shippers tech rep was not pleased when he found his system with a large dent in the side of the case, not sure how that got there... but it is just about the same size as the toe of my shoe???? - MY BAD...
 
Who built this other box for you? Is it relatively new? I'd be having this discussion with them. And there's no reason you can't have it reformatted and get XP Pro installed instead. I still run XP on my 2nd box, and it's pretty good on FSX but can't compare with my newer boxes speed and memory management with Vista 64, at least that's what I believe the differences to primarily be. Could I do just as well running FSX with XP Pro and some upgrading as many FSX'ers (maybe most) do? Probably: add some RAM, do the 3 gigabyte switch thingy, faster CPU (probably need to replace the MOBO to use the latest high performance CPU's), upgrade the GPU, probably need a larger PSU as well to run it all - now I've also got to pay somebody else to do all this for me - cheaper to buy a whole new box in the end.

Unfortunately there is no easy way with Vista. Your gonna' have to do some reading. Vista isn't XP and the learning curve seems steeper, (or maybe it's just too different from what we're used to with XP), to get what you want out of it with a minimum of hassles. It took me 3 weeks just to find eveything I needed access to in Vista because of all the "improvements" over XP. I'll be 62 in 2 weeks and never in my life touched a computer until I was in my 50's. This is not so easy this caveman could do it without investing some time in reading and trying.

I see gigabyte is sending you some info and he sounds like he's giving you a "safe approach", that's always a good thing.

For a simple read to some performance tweaks reading wise:
by Stuart Yarnold (Paperback - Jul 28, 2007) $11.24
check Borders or Amazon

I've got a couple of 1,000 page tomes I bought and read those Chapters I thought pertinent, not really necessary though.

Also check out http://www.vistax64.com/
and http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/index2.html?filter[11]=Performance%20Maintenance


Again, if this is a newer box and under warranty I'd be all over the builder like flies on :bs:.
 
FLighT01 said:
Not necessarily a password gimmick. When I recently got a new box with Vista 64 I had the boot drive fail after an auto-update scenario before I could get around (trouble finding with all the unnecessary changes to where things were located and what they were called and interpreting instructions on how to turn things off in Vista) to turning off the automatic updates feature. I don't allow anything automatic with any version of Windows, never have. I always do updates manually.

I had to send the 7 day old box back for service, would not boot, a blank black screen. I think, if I remember correctly, it installed software or driver updates to the MOBO that precipitated (along with some other issues no doubt) the complete failure of the system. It all happened so fast it was like watching a car accident in slow motion and being unable to do anything about it. Totally insane.

I have also noticed that updates occur differently on Vista than with XP. After the updates are downoaded I reboot, as the shutdown phase is occurring it takes maybe 20 to 30 seconds longer than usual and a screen appears showing certain aspects of the downloaded patches being executed (? I'm guessing here). As the the machine is booting up another screen appears telling me it's configuring something ( The updates, Malicious Tool process?). That normally takes another 20 to 30 seconds or less and then on to the desktop.

You have to be patient while this stuff is happening. Vista's functional response are slower/different from XP's, at least that's been my experience.

Many people have no problems with auto updates, I've never had anything but problems with it (Vista or XP).

My 8 step mantra for Vista:
1. Make sure your the Administrator
2. Turn off Defender
3. Turn off UAC
4. Turn off Aero
5. Turn off Automatic Updates
6. Turn off Indexing
7. Turn off System Restore (Optional - depends on how "lucky" your
feeling.
8. Shut down the Security Center.

(As gleened from others who know significantly more about these things than I do)

I'm down to 29 (so far) Processes at start up and running "stock" FSX Accel at 60 FPS most situations with high slider settings, 1% or less variation in the countryside, 3% or so variation in city settings. (Everyone's mileage will vary.)

I use my home PC's for FS and FS related activities only. No surfing pron sights, no on line banking, no business related activities, no ripping/burning of discs, no digital photography stuff, no need for 75% of the bloatware that Vista would run if I let it.

Again, these are my experiences only, with Vista I had to take charge or it would run roughshod all over me. It doesn't seem to be interested in working with you regardless of what the ads imply. Hopefully this will be corrected when they update Vista to Win7.
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Wild how all of that is what MS thought we needed, and its all basically what make vista such a rough OS to run with.
 
emachines, el cheapo Intel Dual 3.2 CPU ($250)
added:
650 watt power supply
4 GB Memory
2 SATA 250GB Hard drives
e-systems overclocked nVidia 8800 video card.
Apart from Windows Vista Home, it is extremely wicked fast.
You couldn't pay me enough to try Windows Vista Pro.
 
That's certainly enough CPU and GPU horsepower to drive FS9 or FSX well.

I'm feeling confident I've got Vista 64 under control at this point. (Riiiight!)

I'm constantly amazed at the amount of self flagellation we flight simmers will endure for a few FPS more, LOL.
 
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