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lifejogger

Lost in Texas
I spent all day today digging out my driveway from under two to three feet of snow so I could get my car out which promptly got stuck in the snow going around a corner and it took about an hour to get it going again.:isadizzy::isadizzy::isadizzy::isadizzy:
 
lifejogger said:
I spent all day today digging out my driveway from under two to three feet of snow so I could get my car out which promptly got stuck in the snow going around a corner and it took about an hour to get it going again.:isadizzy::isadizzy::isadizzy::isadizzy:
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:icon_lol: I just got back from an environmental regulatory conference where I got to listen to the EPA tell us how they will be cutting the ozone standard so low that just about every town in the US will become non-compliance.

The next fellow talked about the Green House Gas (GHG) rulings that will require tens of thousands of industrial sites to spend $11, 500 each to submit a report on how much toxic gases like methane and carbon dioxide they emit into the atmosphere.

One of the questions was what can they do to lower the environmental costs? Someone piped up in the back, "Relocate to China."
 
It's 20F here and dropping, I've got a foot of snow on the ground, my truck and car are both buried in it and we're expecting another foot tonight. I almost lost my Min Pin Sassy in it when she went into a drift. I barely got out to go the half mile to the pasture to feed and water the horses earlier this afternoon.

Global Warming my tail feathers.........
 
21 right here now in New Castle, and going down in the teens overnight. Tell me again were having a climate change and it's getting warmer. Horse Hockey! The Ki Ki birds have been out again for 2 night running.

TomSteber said:
Why doesn't this stuff ever make the main stream news here in the states? :isadizzy:
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They don't want you to know, that's why.
 
Yep, every few weeks a new one.

Two things they have in common:

1. An abject failure to understand the difference between local weather and planetary climate.

2. They are a political minefield... already skirting the edge of the 'No Politics' policy, just about begging for a response that will push things over the edge.

Pretty transparent, the whole subject should go to Oso's to start with... not really appropriate here.
 
It's currently 30 deg F at Norfolk International (KORF) with snow forecasted to start early Sat AM, possibly 10 inches or so by Sat evening. No big deal by Chicago standards but here in Tidewater if we get an inch or two the whole place is paralyzed. :rolleyes:
 
you guys do now of course know that its actaully polar warming. Poler ice melts, cools sea, cooler seas = no warm gulf stream, colder earth.

And seeing as how we've had yet another snowfall with the stuff laying (4th this year) which is unheard off, specialy in town, i belive it ... and anyway ... being "green" is a hell of a lot cheaper, and seeing as how a lot of you always moan about the price of everything every sodding year, why so anti? ;)
 
Silver Fox said:
Yep, every few weeks a new one.

Two things they have in common:

1. An abject failure to understand the difference between local weather and planetary climate.

2. They are a political minefield... already skirting the edge of the 'No Politics' policy, just about begging for a response that will push things over the edge.

Pretty transparent, the whole subject should go to Oso's to start with... not really appropriate here.
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Yes, this thread probably should be in Oso's.
 
lifejogger said:
I spent all day today digging out my driveway from under two to three feet of snow so I could get my car out which promptly got stuck in the snow going around a corner and it took about an hour to get it going again.:isadizzy::isadizzy::isadizzy::isadizzy:
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And for some really stupid reason I spent today (Saturday) in a full flame-proof driving suit and helmet, racing my GT40R in 37C heat ...... and it will be hotter on Sunday.
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Hey All,

Warmest January on record here in much of the PNW (Seattle, Vancouver perhaps into the Okanogan) February looks to perhaps be the same. So if you judge planetary climate by looking out your kitchen window come to Seattle and you'll change your mind.

No data that I know of has been falsified. You can argue about data correction (NASA data for example), data substitution (real for proxies) and data analysis (principle components analysis methodologies) all you like - they are simply differences in presentation - the basic message hasn't changed.

-Ed-
 
Climate Change

Two pertinent points in this debate:

1) Do not confuse weather with climate. Weather is what goes on by hourly or daily increments, climate is what happens over 100s and 1000s of years.

2) The U.S. military and intelligence agencies are planning for Climate Change and believe it is true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

This is just one article of many I have read lately about how the military is planning for more transit and development in the Arctic.


Regards, Rob:ernae:
 
viking3 said:
Two pertinent points in this debate:

1) Do not confuse weather with climate. Weather is what goes on by hourly or daily increments, climate is what happens over 100s and 1000s of years.http://
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So true. I cringe every time I see a thread about "global warming". What's really going on is CLIMATE change. It's inevitable...been going on for billions of years. Sometimes its stable, other times there are variations. The storms we are experiencing now are just a small part of the overall change in the climate. The atmosphere is growing a few degrees warmer, and the resulting changes in the weather (stronger hurricanes, more intense winter storms) are the atmosphere adjusting to the changes. Back around 100 million years ago, the climate was much warmer than it is now, with much higher oxygen content, and also higher CO2 levels...but it was stable. Volcanoes and asteroids changed the variables, and we had ice ages...Climate change. Perfectly normal, and natural. All that's happening now is that we humans have changed the variables, so the climate needs to readjust. Enjoy the weather. Without it we wouldn't be here.
 
Snuffy said:
And that's a problem ... how? :bump:
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There is nothing new being said...someone posts a link to an article, then a flurry of "global warming my (insert synonym for backside here)". There is no doubt climate change is occurring, and always has. I think however to say that it is a man made issue is a bit arrogant. We are but tiny specks on he face of the planet, and we have very little control over how she decides to work. That's not to say that we shouldn't take care of the earth.
 
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