Lanchaster/Manchester data

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NachtPiloten

Kurier auf Stube...pauke!
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Hey anyone have

dihedral, twist, deflection degrees (rudder, elevator, aileron, flaps) for these planes? :banghead:

Ted
 
Further to the above link, the incidence for the Avro Lancaster Mark II is quoted as 4 degrees (page 16 in the link from the previous thread).
 
I dropped a copy of the pilot's notes in your folder Ted. I don't think it has those specific items (it may have some, I haven't read it all) but it may prove useful for other things, especially VC related stuff.
 
Hi Ted,

When I am home, I 'll see what the eLibrary has to say about this. I"ll let you know.
 
Thanks

Really appreciate the feedback! :applause: As far as the FB one, there are many data points that effect the flight characteristics. If the FB plane seems like it is a bit over/under performing that many be because of other data. I never looked at the data for the FB model. Post the airfile in this thread and I'll take a look see.

TSK
 
Uploading all books we have to your folder on the FTP right now. Give it some 10 minutes and it should be there. If not, let me know!
 
Hi Ted,

data from the FP lanc.

regards Rob.

//FIREPOWER SERIES CERTIFIED AIRCRAFT
//Avro Lancaster Mk. III
[fltsim.0]
title=Avro Lancaster Mk. III
sim=lanc_F2F
model=lanc_F2F

[weight_and_balance]

// ACM V2.2
max_gross_weight = 68000
empty_weight = 35192
reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0
empty_weight_CG_position = 0.01, 0, 0
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 173587
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 141589
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 258700
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0
max_number_of_stations = 6

station_load.0 = 170, 13.50, -1.5, 3.45
station_load.1 = 170, 13.50, 1.08, 3.42
station_load.2 = 170, 19.64, 0, 1.94
station_load.3 = 170, 21.19, 0, -0.89
station_load.4 = 170, -21.93, -0.10, 4.54
station_load.5 = 170, -44.65, 0, 0.83

CG_forward_limit=0.000000
CG_aft_limit=1.000000

[GeneralEngineData]

//0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
engine_type = 0
fuel_flow_scalar = 1
engine.0 = 9.75, -25.35, 0,
engine.1 = 10.8, -11.2, 0,
engine.2 = 10.8, 11.2, 0,
engine.3 = 9.75, 25.35, 0,


[fuel]

//Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type = 1
number_of_tank_selectors = 1

LeftMain = 0, -6.4, 0, 696, 0
LeftAux = 0, -25.5, 0.77, 597, 0
RightMain = 0, 6.4, 0, 696, 0
RightAux = 0, 25.5, 0.77, 597, 0


[contact_points]
static_pitch = 5.38
static_cg_height = 9
tailwheel_lock = 1
max_number_of_points = 16

point.0 = 1, -37.8405, 0, -6.125, 2200, 0, 1.2, 45, 0.35, 1.5, 0.7, 0, 0, 0, 136, 158
point.1 = 1, 3.6, -11.25, -10, 2500, 1, 2.3, 0, 0.5, 2.5, 0.8, 13, 18, 2, 136, 158
point.2 = 1, 3.6, 11.25, -10, 2500, 2, 2.3, 0, 0.5, 2.5, 0.8, 19, 14, 3, 136, 158
point.3 = 2, 19.6461, 0, -3.2909, 2000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.4 = 2, -4.5353, 0, -4.9677, 2500, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.5 = 2, -5.1264, -51.0084, 3.7664, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0
point.6 = 2, -5.1265, 51.0092, 4.0123, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0
point.7 = 2, -45.5829, 0, -1.9296, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0
point.8 = 2, 7.3092, 0, -4.7287, 2000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.9 = 2, -32.1128, 0, -3.4257, 2000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.10 = 2, -0.79, -25.3766, -1.9402, 1500, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0
point.11 = 2, -0.79, 25.315, -1.9399, 1500, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0
point.12 = 2, 9.75, -25.35, -5, 750, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.13 = 2, 10.8, -11.2, -6.6, 750, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.14 = 2, 10.8, 11.2, -6.6, 750, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.15 = 2, 9.75, 25.35, -5, 750, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0


[keyboard_response]
elevator = 150, 250
aileron = 150, 250
rudder = 150, 250


[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude = 1000
gear_bump_nose_direction = 18000
gear_bump_nose_duration = 250000
gear_bump_left_magnitude = 2000
gear_bump_left_direction = 35500
gear_bump_left_duration = 250000
gear_bump_right_magnitude = 2000
gear_bump_right_direction = 500
gear_bump_right_duration = 250000
ground_bumps_magnitude1 = 1250
ground_bumps_angle1 = 8900
ground_bumps_intercept1 = 5
ground_bumps_slope1 = 0.48
ground_bumps_magnitude2 = 450
ground_bumps_angle2 = 9100
ground_bumps_intercept2 = 0.075
ground_bumps_slope2 = 1
crash_magnitude1 = 2000
crash_direction1 = 1000
crash_magnitude2 = 2000
crash_direction2 = 9000
crash_period2 = 7500
crash_duration2 = 2500000
stick_shaker_magnitude = 2000
stick_shaker_direction = 0
stick_shaker_period = 111111

[airplane_geometry]
//ACM_AREAW1// 0,0,0,3.8740,1.7272,1.7272,0,3.6802,3.4544,3.4544
//ACM_AREAW2// 0,3.4865,5.1816,5.1816,0,3.2929,6.9088,6.9088,0,3.0992
//ACM_AREAW3// 8.6358,8.6358,0,2.9054,10.3632,10.3632,0,2.7118,12.0902,12.0902
//ACM_AREAW4// 0,2.5181,13.8176,13.8176,0,2.3243,15.5445,15.5445,0,2.1307
//ACM_AREAH1// 0.6496,0.6496,0,1.4558,0.9082,0.9082,0.0296,1.4368,1.2884,1.2884
//ACM_AREAH2// 0.0597,1.4311,1.9124,1.9124,0.0895,1.4254,2.3333,2.3333,0.1194,1.4332
//ACM_AREAH3// 2.8217,2.8217,0.1492,1.4543,3.4323,3.4323,0.1791,1.4622,3.9479,3.9479
//ACM_AREAH4// 0.2090,1.4837,4.4636,4.4636,0.2388,1.4915,5.1146,5.1146,0.2687,1.3638
//ACM_AREAV1// 0,0,0.5953,1.0607,0.4138,0.4138,0.1624,1.0657,0.8816,0.8816
//ACM_AREAV2// 0.0216,1.0604,1.2848,1.2848,0,1.0656,1.7094,1.7094,0,1.0492
//ACM_AREAV3// 2.0799,2.0799,0.0324,1.0434,2.4614,2.4614,0.1080,1.0269,2.8643,2.8643
//ACM_AREAV4// 0.2381,1.0540,3.2890,3.2890,0.3140,1.0051,3.7137,3.7137,0.5630,0.9562
//ACM_CAREAW1// 7.7722,7.7722,1.9370,2.7118,8.6358,8.6358,1.9370,2.6730,9.4995,9.4995
//ACM_CAREAW2// 1.9370,2.6342,10.3632,10.3632,1.9370,2.5954,11.2264,11.2264,1.9370,2.5566
//ACM_CAREAW3// 12.0902,12.0902,1.9370,2.5181,12.9539,12.9539,1.9370,2.4793,13.8176,13.8176
//ACM_CAREAW4// 1.9370,2.4405,14.6812,14.6812,1.9370,2.4017,15.5445,15.5445,1.9370,2.3631
//ACM_CAREAH1// 0.6090,0.6090,1.4385,2.6335,0.9488,0.9488,1.4278,2.5915,1.3291,1.3291
//ACM_CAREAH2// 1.4306,2.5090,1.7769,1.7769,1.4470,2.4398,2.2655,2.2655,1.4227,2.3842
//ACM_CAREAH3// 2.7272,2.7272,1.4391,2.3015,3.2293,3.2293,1.4687,2.2323,3.8396,3.8396
//ACM_CAREAH4// 1.4311,2.1631,4.3281,4.3281,1.4335,2.0399,4.7898,4.7898,1.4364,1.9299
//ACM_CAREAV1// -0.0432,-0.0432,0.9311,1.0714,0.3271,0.3271,0.9311,1.5506,0.7408,0.7408
//ACM_CAREAV2// 0.9311,1.6941,1.2194,1.2194,0.9311,1.7401,1.6554,1.6554,0.9311,1.6885
//ACM_CAREAV3// 2.1233,2.1233,0.9311,1.6476,2.4939,2.4939,0.9311,1.5743,2.9402,2.9402
//ACM_CAREAV4// 0.9311,1.4795,3.4082,3.4082,0.9311,1.3415,3.7137,3.7137,0.9311,1.0627
wing_area = 1297
wing_span = 102
wing_root_chord = 12.72
wing_dihedral = 5
wing_incidence = 3
wing_twist = -1
oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.895
wing_winglets_flag = 0
wing_sweep = 0
wing_pos_apex_lon = 3.18
wing_pos_apex_vert = 0
htail_area = 125
htail_span = 33.65
htail_pos_lon = -34.70
htail_pos_vert = 0
htail_incidence = 0
htail_sweep = 3
vtail_area = 70.2
vtail_span = 12.22
vtail_sweep = 0
vtail_pos_lon = -35.26
vtail_pos_vert = -3.22
elevator_area = 78.5
aileron_area = 93.4
rudder_area = 49.82
elevator_up_limit = 22
elevator_down_limit = 18
aileron_up_limit = 15
aileron_down_limit = 20
rudder_limit = 25
elevator_trim_limit = 19
spoiler_limit = 0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 0
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 0
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0
spoilerons_available = 0

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar=1
parasite_drag_scalar=1
induced_drag_scalar=1
elevator_effectiveness=1
aileron_effectiveness=1
rudder_effectiveness=1
pitch_stability=1
roll_stability=1
yaw_stability=1
elevator_trim_effectiveness=1
aileron_trim_effectiveness=1
rudder_trim_effectiveness=1

[piston_engine]
power_scalar=1
cylinder_displacement=137.25
compression_ratio=6
number_of_cylinders=12
max_rated_rpm=3000
max_rated_hp=1480
fuel_metering_type=0
cooling_type=1
normalized_starter_torque=0.035
turbocharged=1
max_design_mp=44.2
min_design_mp=9.15
critical_altitude=11001
emergency_boost_type=3
emergency_boost_mp_offset=2.21
emergency_boost_gain_offset=0.305
fuel_air_auto_mixture=0
auto_ignition=0
max_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1
idle_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1
max_rpm_friction_scalar=1
idle_rpm_friction_scalar=1
fuel_flow_scalar=1
emergency_boost_duration=300

[propeller]
thrust_scalar=1
propeller_type=0
propeller_diameter=13.2
propeller_blades=3
propeller_moi=45
beta_max=65
beta_min=15
min_gov_rpm=450
prop_tc=0.01
gear_reduction_ratio=2.38
fixed_pitch_beta=30
low_speed_theory_limit=80
prop_sync_available=1
prop_deice_available=1
prop_feathering_available=1
prop_auto_feathering_available=1
min_rpm_for_feather=800
beta_feather=88.5
power_absorbed_cf=0.9
defeathering_accumulators_available=0
prop_reverse_available=0
minimum_on_ground_beta=1
minimum_reverse_beta=-14
rotation = 1, 1, 1, 1

[flaps.0]
type = 1
system_type = 1
span-outboard = 0.5
extending-time = 8
damaging-speed = 150
blowout-speed = 180
lift_scalar = 1
drag_scalar = 1
pitch_scalar = 1
flaps-position.0 = 0
flaps-position.1 = 11.25
flaps-position.2 = 22.5
flaps-position.3 = 33.75
flaps-position.4 = 45

[General]
editable=1

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=71.3
full_flaps_stall_speed=59.1
cruise_speed=188
 
Rob -

Saw a couple of things that were off, but not much really. I was sent the air file so I can look at it and tinker a little.

Ted
 
Lancasters

James,

These were done up to AvHistory standards so I think they should be ok.

Ted
 
The Other War - replicating the night bombing campaigns of WW2 and the nightfighter involvement. This is a project of Ted and mongoose's devising.
 
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