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Malaysia Airlines B777 contact lost

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The authorities have begun a search and rescue for Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 after the Beijing-bound plane lost contact with air traffic controllers this morning, the airline said today.
MAS said flight MH370 lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2.40am.
The B777-200 aircraft left the Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 12.41am and was expected to land in Beijing at 6.30am.

"The flight was carrying 227 passengers (including two infants), 12 crew members," the airline said in a statement.
"Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated their search and rescue team to locate the aircraft," it added. – March 8, 2014.
 
Sounds like a possible hijacking... the thugs make their way onto the flight deck and the first thing they do is tell the pilot to turn the transponder and the radios off. The other thing might be a complete electrical and hydraulic failure... but the odds of BOTH of those things happening together are somewhat rare.

At any rate... I hope they find the jet, and all who were on board to be OK.

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The Vietnamese air force spotted a couple oil slicks which they think may be the spot it went down.
 
Until more concrete evidence (wreckage, etc.) is found and/ or identified, personally I would take any media reports with a grain of salt. The local media in Malaysia, Vietnam and China are basically stepping on top of themselves, releasing erroneous information. One Malaysian outlet initially reported that the airplane landed in China, which was quickly redacted. Another one reported that a USAF unit in Thailand picked up a radio transmission from the airplane, declaring an emergency due to "disintegration of the fuselage", also unconfirmed. All Chinese authorities are saying is that the airplane is "missing", and that it did not land in China. Vietnamese officials say they have discovered an 'oil slick' off the SW Coast, then moved the location much closer to the Malaysian coastline.

All we can do is wait, and keep the pax and crew in our thoughts.

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Austria's Foreign Ministry has reported that someone who boarded the plane was using a passport stolen from an Austrian citizen(tourist) in Thailand two years ago. Whether that person was a possible terrorist or not remains to be seen but it's certainly suspicious.
 
StormILM said:
Austria's Foreign Ministry has reported that someone who boarded the plane was using a passport stolen from an Austrian citizen(tourist) in Thailand two years ago. Whether that person was a possible terrorist or not remains to be seen but it's certainly suspicious.
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There was not one but two stolen passports on that plane. The owners were at home. It certainly does sounds suspicious along with the plane's sudden disappearance.
I flew home on a 777-200 from London last year, also have been on a 777-300 as well. These planes have had a very good safety record for many years.
 
mrogers said:
There was not one but two stolen passports on that plane. The owners were at home. It certainly does sounds suspicious along with the plane's sudden disappearance.
I flew home on a 777-200 from London last year, also have been on a 777-300 as well. These planes have had a very good safety record for many years.
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I heard that not long after I made my previous post. That's very indicative of a coordinated effort of some sorts but until the exact crash site is located and FDR/CVR's are recovered, we won't know what went on in the flight deck or with the aircraft in general. If I had to guess, I'd say the infiltrators were bomb-laden and set them off. The aircraft did change direction as if they were reversing course but the lack of MAYDAY radio call and no 7500/7600/7700 Squawk means whatever it was, it was sudden. Scary!
 
The latest I heard is that there were 2 stolen passports. I still smell a rat here... and INTERPOL states that not one country ran any kind of verification check on any of those three passports in question, thus allowing those particular individuals to board the jet without incident. If it is in fact a hijacking... there is a possibility that the hijackers could have forced the plane to crash in the ocean. But even so, there would be some kind of debris floating about at the location determined as to have had an "oil slick" as earlier reported by the Vietnamese Air Force. JMO...

Latest info here: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-loses-contact-with-plane-carrying-23-people/

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So as of today, there are two passengers of interest, no debris yet, the oil slick was apparently from normal shipping, and now the plane might have continued flying hundreds of miles from last contact. Makes me think back to fighter pilots defecting, dropping low and heading for another country to call home. It's far fetched but one might hold out hope for a better than tragic closure to this missing plane story.
 
So, i think that the B777 is exploded on the air :banghead: because its impossible lost radar-contact with an aircraft if it not explode. The US-Navy has expedioned (i m not sure of the model) a destroyer of the Arleigh Burke class? :confused: or a Oliver Hazard Perry frigate. I m very sad for all the parents of the flight attendants and passengers and i hope that all are alive!
 
Can't work this one out at all. The two 'harmless' Iranians with the stolen passports apparently only wanted to get to Europe to find a better life.

So they pick a flight to Beijing ???
 
This is so bizarre. And trying to learn anything by watching the news is actually counter productive, because the “news readers” can't translate what they get from “experts” into coherent sentences. So, this ACARS data. Do all 777s transmit this data, regardless of the carrier? IOW can, say, Malaysia Air Lines buy a 777 from Boeing with the stipulation that ACARS reporting not be included? Where, exactly, does ACARS data go? The airline? The engine manufacturer? Both? Anyone else? Can somebody call them and ask them? Now we hear that “US sources suspect the plane could have flown for hours after it lost contact with ATC”. Well, duh, of course. But we get insinuations that this tidbit is “somehow related” to the ACARS system. Ok, CNN, Fox News, etc., are you saying that “somebody” has ACARS data to support this? Who? No answer. We do know that the USN is sending ships to the Indian Ocean to look. That's interesting, after all the back and forth about “it turned west”, “no, it didn't”, “yes, it did”. Now CNN is reporting that somebody has determined that “communications” and “data” systems were turned off separately. How do we know this? And what “data” system? IFF? We already knew that. Radios? Can you tell when the radios were turned off? I suspect not. The guy on CNN trying to explain this bit of info spent half his time talking about the cockpit voice recording system. Good grief. I shouldn't be surprised, I guess. I do hope they find this plane. It's a big ocean out there, even in 2014....
 
I agree, each day the story gets more & more bizarre. The ACARS is totally autonomous so the crew cannot switch it off even by a breaker pull. It doesn't transmit/receive constantly, only events/checkpoints during the flight being normal or abnormal. The transmission/reception of the ACARS is not seamless throughout the globe, there are many deadspots but the data will save and then transmit its log when a coms link becomes active. I think there's more to this than is being said in that our Military and Intelligence apparatus having capability that it does has evidence that wasn't tracked by routine means used by ATC and other tracking technologies. I am certain there was a deliberate hand involved at turning this aircraft off course and to wherever it is now.
 
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