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Marsden Matting in an FSX Scenery?

Bomber_12th

Bomber_12th

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Hey all,

I was wondering today if anyone happens to know of a scenery for FSX with a good representation of "Marsden Matting" within it? It doesn't matter whether it is payware or freeware, as long as the quality is there.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
 
robert41 said:
How bout these from Roger Wilco Solomon Is. and IanP WW2 airbases.
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Robert,

thanks for the cudos, but that's the default FSX texture and I think its horrible. The original looks much finer and, in real, is very uneven in its looks due to stain effects and such, which can't be depicted by the default texture, of course. Or any texture that is drawn with that method (tiles). I tried to overly a "used look" texture on it (see your first image) but it still is far from the real.
I guess we have to live with it or develop another method with a much higher resolution, but thats' gonna hurt the frames per second.

Cheers,
Mark
 
I've made a decent texture, but I still have to blur it significantly to knock down the moire`. I also place a "used" texture over it.
 
Wow, Jim, that looks incredible!
That's what I had in mind when I was thinking about how it should look like :)

Is it possible to blend the edges of the runway irregularly with an alpha channel? E.g. like the default crushed coral texture?

Will you release this texture? I'd love to incorporate this in the next Solomon release!

Cheers,
Mark
 
I suppose it's possible if one was to rework the texture and use it as one of the layers in a ground poly runway. I've tried an alpha with the holes and slots transparent and boy does it get busy. Still experimenting.

The only place I know of that the default matting appears in FSX is at Twentynine Palms.
 
The default matting does look pretty poor - it's not actually proper period matting, either, it's a much more modern steel mesh. However as has also already been said, without making custom ground polys, there's very little you can do about that.

Jim's looks much more realistic. I doubt I'll be doing much to improve mine either, t.b.h. - not for the moment, anyway.

Could you bump map, rather than make them transparent, Jim? No. Belay that... Can't use bumps with the FS2002 SDK compiler.

Hmm.

Ian P.
 
I got it. I fooled with the alpha. You can see the surface you place it on now. Where did you want this stuff John? (all in-game-shots)

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Jim, it looks really, really great!! For what I want to do, it doesn't really matter where the matting lies, as long as it is over grass, preferably, as you already have it. I figured it would make for a good photo-op with a certain warbird or two parked on it. I'll take whatever you have, or whatever you may want to do with it!
 
Thanks for the kind words. I've been looking around for an airfield that has Marsden Mats, that has had P-51's in its past, and was abandoned after the war (I didn't want to fool with doing two versions). A couple of places have surfaced: Lesina Airfield, and Ramitelli Airfield. Both had a single Marsden Mat runway, and Lesina had P-38's, P-47's, and P-51's. The socially redeeming value of Ramitelli is that it was the Red Tail's European Base for most of the war (and I've already done their home fields in Alabama).

Between The mat, my tents, buildings, and vehicles from the Barakoma library and default objects, they should come together pretty quickly.

Jim
 
Ahhhh... Well, if you can afford a P-51, I'm assuming you can afford to have some Marsden mats spray painted the color of your choice and use them when the airshow folks make you park on the grass.:jump:
 
At a show like Oshkosh, many warbirds come with their own support crew, either in other aircraft, or by car/van/truck. Especially is the case if the owner has a display of items to go with the aircraft which must be transported to the site.
 
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