New Version of Mario Noriega's Freeware Piaggio PD-808 At Avsim

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New Version of Mario Noriega's Freeware Piaggio PD-808 At Avsim

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File Description:
Piaggio PD-808 Version 2.1. All variants included (RM, GE, TA, TP, Civil). V2.1 brings improved virtual cockpit performance, advanced sound effects, advanced fuel systems simulation (a component requires FSUIPC), some operational procedure corrections and minor bug fixes. FSUIPC is optional however (needed for a very rarely used control). The Piaggio PD-808 is a light twin turbojet aircraft that saw service with the Italian Air Force until 2003. They were employed as trainers, VIP transports, Navaid Calibrators and ECM platforms. A single machine, registered I-PIAL, was used by Piaggio itself as a corporate transport. This simulation includes in-depth avionics and systems, completely working overhead panel, some failure modeling (when it is improperly operated), pressurization system, and vintage style autopilot. Includes 2D panel, 3D virtual cockpit, and a sound package with special sound effects. It is very important to read the manual before flying! For V2.0 users, a short "update manual" is included.


Filename: fs9_808v21.zip
License: Freeware
Added: 23rd June 2011
Downloads: 662
Author: Mario Noriega
Size: 72422kb

Cheers ! Mike :salute:
 
VC performance improved ? That sound good but I'm not too optimistic for the moment.
This plane was bringing my i7 to its knees on FSX, to a stuttering level where it was barely flyable :/
 
There's a separate download for FSX I believe, this update is for FS9.

There's a gauge that crashed my sim: dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau
I removed it and everything seems to work OK in FS9.

Yet another quirky offering from Piaggio - a pilot's model this one, I look forward to some interesting flights with it.
 
VC performance improved ? That sound good but I'm not too optimistic for the moment.
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I had horrible VC performance with the previous version in FS9, but this model is vastly improved.

There's a gauge that crashed my sim: dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau
I removed it and everything seems to work OK in FS9.
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Same here. I suspect we'll see an update in a few days to fix this. All in all, a very impressive creation, with lots of switches to flip and knobs to turn. Thanks, Mario!
 
I'll do my best!

Hi simmers! This is Mario, author of the discussed airplane! I'm glad that you are enjoying it and that the VC performance improvement seems enough for you! Still has some impact but I believe it's much better! (never apply VC dynamic gauge textures to complex 3D objects! that's what you get... took a while to figure out!)
So the gauge "dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau" is crashing your FS9? odd, because it just works fine down here! can you report on the error? this gauge is the core for the new sound effect engine, and per the readme it is supposed to work on FS9 as well... here at home it does without a glitch, and it does not require usage of any external DLL.
I'm still working on the FS-X package, and I hope to have it ready soon!

Thanks to all!

Mario
 
Ciao, Mario!

Glad to see you here at SOH! :salute:
Although your new aircraft isn't my cup of tea, I'm still enjoying your awesome P.149D.
Probably not one of the easiest-to-paint aircraft but what a beauty!

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Thank you so much for this grace!

Cheers,
Markus.
 
Nice to get some news from the author himself. Thanks for the hard work, Mario :ernae:
I hope you'll be also able to solve the same performance issue with the P-149.
 
Thnaks!

really thanks for the comments guys!
I still can't find the origin for the gauge problem ...tried moving it around, start from the original MSFS default flight (I had this aircraft as default...), but it appears to work flawlessly! never had it give a single crash even during the development phase! The gauge is not mine but a work of the clever Doug Dawson, who made it expressely so other people could use XML variables to trigger sounds at will...
QUESTION! Do tou guys hear switches clicking when you flick them? this will mean the gauge is working!

Thanks for the help!
 
Hi Mario, I have no problems with this aircraft in FS2004, running Windows XP ....

Thanks for the updated version ... Mike :applause:
 
Not an OS problem then...

I was starting to think this was an OS issue, but I'm running Win7 x64 and you are on XP...:ques:

RECENT developments on this subject:
are you seeing those errors?

dsd_fsx_xml_sound "Crate sound buffer failed"

and

dsd_fsx_xml_sound "Direct sound failed to initialize"

if so, it is a directsound issue, you may not be running Windows or you need to check your sound card drivers...
 
Welcome aboard Mario!

If I may offer a tip in trying to diagnose the crash issue... There's a couple of third-party dll's that most users have had for so long, they're likely the farthest thing from the mind. The first one is GaugeSound.dll which resides in the root FS9 folder. The other one is FSSound.dll located in the FS9\Modules folder, and requires the following entry in the fs9.cfg:

[oldmodules]
FSSound.dll=1

If you have either (or both) of these, try deleting them one at a time and seeing if the gauge still works properly.
 
about these 2 DLLs, they are not the problem. Just tested this out even if the readme for the problematic gauge states that it is not dependent on any of those! It is most likely a DirectSound issue..
 
I have always liked the Piaggio designs. This one is no exception. And the latest release is definitely better. I only had time for a short testhop today....but wow pretty much sums it up.Thank You for this beauty.Stefan
 
Mariopilot said:
I was starting to think this was an OS issue, but I'm running Win7 x64 and you are on XP...:ques:
RECENT developments on this subject:
are you seeing those errors?
dsd_fsx_xml_sound "Crate sound buffer failed"
and
dsd_fsx_xml_sound "Direct sound failed to initialize"
if so, it is a directsound issue, you may not be running Windows or you need to check your sound card drivers...
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Mario thanks for the reply on this issue.
I get the following successive error messages:
Fail.jpg

On clicking the final "OK" the sim dies.
First time this has happened in my sim...
 
Just wondering: does anyone know the reason for the extraordinary split brow bulbous growth around the cockpit area?
You'd assume for additional space - but if the pilots are correctly scaled, they can play a game of squash in there...

Piaggio.jpg
 
Mariopilot said:
dsd_fsx_xml_sound "Crate sound buffer failed"

and

dsd_fsx_xml_sound "Direct sound failed to initialize"

if so, it is a directsound issue, you may not be running Windows or you need to check your sound card drivers...
Click to expand...

Mario, I'm getting both of those errors; if I click on "ok" they will clear & the sim doesn't ctd, but it's pretty annoying - and, of course, I'll have to do that twice, once when I select the aircraft & again when I load it. I'm running Windows XP SP3, a good soundcard with the latest drivers; I've even let MS update by DirectX, so I'm running the latest version of DX9 - and that makes me wonder if that may be the problem, is this gauge looking for DX10 or 11 which, if you have Windows 7, is what you will be running.

I can get it into the sim, and it's a lovely aircraft (always loved seeing the Italian AF displays at the Cottesmore shows) but I'm afraid she may not be staying on my PC.
 
The shape of the cockpit is likely an attempt at aerodynamic drag reduction. Creating a shape like this can reduce the drag by keeping the air attached to the fuselage.You can see a similar approach on the new Honda Jet. Stefan
 
Hi!
In this same thread we have an user reporting the aircraft runs fine on Windows XP... users that have problems can go to "[FS9 directory]\aircraft\PD808_shared\panel" and delete the offending gauge. You will miss some sound effects, but there will be no damage to the operation of the plane...
I see some wonderful screenshots here! The cockpit is like that because this was originally an aircraft intended to be a carrier based small tansport for US Navy. Recall S-2 tracker... Douglas contacted Piaggio for partnership, US Navy declaring they will buy some hundreds if a civilian version was manufactured first. Then Douglas merged with McDonnell and abandoned the project... Piaggio kept going, and delays together with some bad technical choices and sheer bad luck (demonstrator #2 crashed in spain due to pilot error, slammed into a mountain in bad weather after a missed approach) hindered it's commercial sccess... only 25 sold to Italian Air Force...
 
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