Now I'm really confused...

Anybody here read the 4 volumes on the air war on the eastern front by Christer Bergstrom; excellent reads with great quality pics too, I'm on the final volume now; Bagration to Berlin.

The thing that struck me most about the VVS in WW11 was the CHRONIC overclaiming by Russian pilots, I mean everybody exagerated or double/triple claimed to a certain degree - often innocently as the same plane was fired at by several pilots, but our Russian chums took it to a whole new level apparently.

Bergstrom reckons as many 9 out of 10 VVS kills were false following his in-depth examination into surviving German records. So that gives the VVS a 9 tenths overclaim rate - EASILY the worst in WW11.

Guess the political situation must have contributed to that, what with political commissars hovering pretty close to the flight line all the time. Guess you didn't want to be failing too often with the chance of an instant transfer to a manual "mine-clearing battalion" or something worse.

So quite possibly the top scoring aces of WW11 were actually mostly British or US? I know the RAF was pretty damn fussy about allocating kills post 1940 (when victories over nazi planes were understandably exagerarted), but they are possibly the most accurate after 1940 period.

Spud, I stand corrected, I think the UK/USA required a witness or guncamera confirmation. The Germans as I understand were pretty lax also, especially on the Eastern Front. Barkhorn set a wing on fire, it's going down, that's a kill.

Not always.

Galland however had many witnessed kills and he is deserving of his I believe it was 80.

Bones
 
Yep some of the German scores were amazing - perhaps a combination of flying in target rich environments pretty much continously, no tour expiry regardless of how many missions flown and good quality fighters (especially early war period in the east).

You're right, a number of German aces do seem to have overclaimed, but nothing to the extent of the VVS apparently. Did the Germans use gun camera's I wonder?
 
If I had a high speed connect I'd consider it, my few experiences with "online" game play is a lot take it too seriously and the competition soon turns into a peter-pulling contest. Perhaps someday I will remedy the connection thing and show what a Zeke can really do.

Bonesimoto

Actually from what I've heard CFS2 works better sometimes with dial up.It was originally setup for dial up so that would make sense.I don't fly CFS2 online but fly other sims.I've dogfighted with them and also did co-op missions which can last for up to 3 hours.The fun all depends on the people you fly with.I fly with exclusive groups and we have been flying together for years and have alot of fun.

Zekes blowup rather nicely.


Talon
 
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