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Odd control "flutter".

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Aztec

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G'day all.

Just a quick question about a little control surface oddity; lately my ailerons and elevators are exhibiting rapid oscillations which gives the appearance of flutter when viewed from the outside. This occurs at everything but the slowest rate of control deflection, but it does not appear to have any impact on flying qualities. I've updated FSUIPC and checked all the applicable settings but to no avail. I've got an old MS Force feedback 2, but it still works like a charm. I'd be interested if anyone else has ever come across this.

Cheers, Az
 
If it happens with all or most AC I would strongly suspect the joystick mechanics or circuitry. Does it happen with no input, when input is being applied or both? You could try widening the dead zones to see if the issue goes away.
 
G'day aeromed. It happens on all a/c, and only when input is applied. To take it a step further, I plugged in a Saitek AV8R which was straight out of the box (never got used to it with the firm spring centering) and still had the same problem. Widened the dead zones, toyed with the delta settings in fsuipc and still no joy.
 
I don't know how MS determined things but you might try realism settings adjustment as well. I keep thinking it is some kind of 'short circuit' in a pathway that is sending overt inputs. Would any stick still have to go through some 3rd party joystick software you have installed?
 
If all else fails you can go into your joystick settings and clear the box that says "Control surface feedback" (or equivalent). That was the only thing that worked for me EVERYTIME!

- H52
 
Thanks guys. I've got the forces disabled (well actually, I've decided to leave the AV8R plugged in and see if I can get used to trimming out the forces, so it won't let me check the forces anyway), and I just plugged in the stick and let it do its' thing, so shouldn't be any 3rd party interference (unless it's got to do with FSUIPC?).
 
To me it sounds like you have Pots going bad.

If it is not affecting the flying then don't worry about it until they fail.
 
Haven't really got an answer, but I had this problem too with my MS FF SW 2.

It seemed to happen when I had adjusted the Force Feedback settings in the FM I was making using the FDWB (FF Aileron & Elevator Force Level, Record 320).

If I took my hands off the stick, the FF oscillations would stop as you'd expect, but you could still see the control surfaces of the visual MDL fluttering. It always happened at higher speeds, regardless of the aircraft type.

Strange thing was, it only happened on certain aircraft, and was fine if I reduced the force settings in the airfile.

So far haven't experienced this in FSX.

As far as I can tell, other than some worn buttons that I intend to replace, my Joystick is still working fine.

Cheers

Paul
 
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