Old Giacomazzi's Hurricane Mk.IIb

[fde_bressy]

I found on the net a Dutch texture by Jelmer Geluk aka 'mazzel' for a MG Hurricane Mk.IIb, but can't find the corresponding A/C anywhere.

All main texture bmp's are identified with the generic name : H2BDes.

If anybody can help....

 

[Jagdflieger]

Hurricane Mk IIb

I checked my library and found a Mk IIb Version 3 by Mauro Giacomazzi, but the texture titles don't match up with your description of them.

 

[fde_bressy]

Hi, Jagd,

That's precisely my problem.
The dutch texture is on Flightsim under the name : dutchhur.zip

The texture names are quite similar to the textures of the Sea Hurricane Mk.Ib.

Thanks for the attention paid to the topic

Francois

 

[SW]

I've looked for the original aircraft on the Internet many times in the past with no luck. Maybe one of the talented re-painters in SOH would tackle a new set of Dutch skins for an appropriate available Hurricane model?

cheers,

Steve

 

[oldwheat]

Here ya go. Tweaked to fit the available MG Hurri IIb...

View attachment 72763

 

[Jagdflieger]

Thanks OW. I've secured them with the Mk IIB folder in my library.

 

[blohmundvoss]

I've got this model if we need it.

I believe this is the IIB tropical version with the model 'HURRI2BT.mdl' from 2002

From the readme:

HAWKER HURRICANE Mk.IIB TROP
for Combat Flight Simulator 2.
by Mauro Giacomazzi.
VERSION: 3.0 - SCASM coded
_________________________________________________________________________________________

Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIb, 73rd Squadron Western Desert Air Force, Lybia 1942.
_________________________________________________________________________________________

MODEL: Multi-res mdl Scasm coded with crash model by Mauro Giacomazzi.

TEXTURES: by Mauro Giacomazzi, converted to 565 Bitmaps using Dxtbmp by Martin Wright.

Cheers
BuV

 

[blohmundvoss]

Ooops! Forgot these.

Screenies.

 

[fde_bressy]

Thank you Oldwheat for the tweeked textures.
Fills a gap in the collection...

Francois

Have all of you a nice week

 

[SW]

Thanks

Here ya go. Tweaked to fit the available MG Hurri IIb...

View attachment 72763

wow, thanks for that Oldwheat

 

[SW]

I believe this is the IIB tropical version with the model 'HURRI2BT.mdl' from 2002

From the readme:

HAWKER HURRICANE Mk.IIB TROP
for Combat Flight Simulator 2.
by Mauro Giacomazzi.
VERSION: 3.0 - SCASM coded
_________________________________________________________________________________________

Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIb, 73rd Squadron Western Desert Air Force, Lybia 1942.
_________________________________________________________________________________________

MODEL: Multi-res mdl Scasm coded with crash model by Mauro Giacomazzi.

TEXTURES: by Mauro Giacomazzi, converted to 565 Bitmaps using Dxtbmp by Martin Wright.

Cheers
BuV

Hi BuV,

thanks for that also. It would be good to see this skin on the original body as it were! Would it be possible for you to upload the original files to the SOH library (if Mauro G. allowed that)??

cheers,

Steve

 

[oldwheat]

I believe that I will do a KNIL skin for Thicko's hurricane. Somehow I suspect that most or all of the Dutch Hurris were in RAF temperate scheme ( dk.earth/dk. green). I like the AH hurricanes but the newer versions are quite 'frame hoggish'. I wonder if they would allow some of us to multi-res their source files as Ted Cook is allowing on his British bombers?

 

[fde_bressy]

Hello OW,
It seems you're right for the textures, according to the read-me attachement joined to the above-mentionned texture.

But the author also says that there'se no known picture of any Dutch Hurri....

Too bad, but leaves place to imagination.

 

[sc7500]

Minor Success

WINGS PALETTE had several images to draw from:

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And I found a second page with lots of "New To Me" images HERE:

http://www.secondworldwar.org.uk/aircraft.html

Enjoy
SC

 

[oldwheat]

Yes, I have those pics. The British hurris in the CBi were both tropical & temperate cam, mostly temperate, and most or all seem to have had vokes tropical filters. As the KNIL aircraft were ex-RAF I'm assuming that the situation was similar. I'm guessing that non-tropicalised hurricanes in desert camo is almost definitely bogus.

 

[SW]

Any Dutch Hurricane gurus out there?

Interesting. There is a lot of debate out on the Internet about these aircraft! One good read is:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=161986&start=0

... from that it isn't clear but maybe the Hurricanes never flew with the orange triangle national markings, but Dutch flag markings instead? On the other hand ...

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70046&pid=793835&mode=threaded&start=

... about 3 quarters of the way down there is a post which contains the following - "The ML/KNIL aircraft did not have the standard large tropical filter under the nose but a very much smaller air intake designed by the ML/KNIL Technical Service.". No source given.

Other web pages suggest all/many of the Hurricanes had been diverted from the middle east, suggesting desert camouflage and Vokes filters.

I think only a Dutch complete Hurricane expert knows the answers to all of this!

 

[SW]

... from that it isn't clear but maybe the Hurricanes never flew with the orange triangle national markings, but Dutch flag markings instead?

Just finished reading "Hurricanes over Singapore". The Dutch Hurricanes were definitely painted with the triangle insignia, unfortunately there is no mention of the order to change to the Dutch national flag insignia (nor whether the order was ever acted on).

What is clear is that is that the ground crews were very busy, so I *suspect* the national flags were not applied and operations were flown with the organge triangles.

cheers,

Steve

 

[dombral]

KNIL Hurricanes

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les hurricanes de la KNIL en l'absence de photos devaient ressembler à ceux-ci (AH Hurricanes MKIIB trop) avant et après le 24 février 1942 .

Just finished reading "Hurricanes over Singapore". The Dutch Hurricanes were definitely painted with the triangle insignia, unfortunately there is no mention of the order to change to the Dutch national flag insignia (nor whether the order was ever acted on).

What is clear is that is that the ground crews were very busy, so I *suspect* the national flags were not applied and operations were flown with the organge triangles.

cheers,

Steve

 

[SW]

Planning to upload?

les hurricanes de la KNIL en l'absence de photos devaient ressembler à ceux-ci (AH Hurricanes MKIIB trop) avant et après le 24 février 1942 .

thanks Dombral, are you going to be uploading the aircraft to SOH?

cheers,

Steve

 

[SW]

Merci

thanks Dombral, are you going to be uploading the aircraft to SOH?

cheers,

Steve

I see you've uploaded them, thanks Dombral!