OT: Check your shorts!

hehe, nicely done 3D comp. The blurring of the camera during critical "transition" shots is a dead giveaway... we do that in the industry all the time...haha... "just motion blur it" as the fx directors would say...

-feng
 
I'm not so sure it's fake - have a look at the background, even at the gear...

Edit - after reading some of the comments on You Tube, it looks to be an RC plane - probably large scale - blended into video of the real thing.

Edit 2 - Hmm... http://www.jamesandersson.com/video01.html

Edit 3 - This will teach me to visit the Newshawks more...
 
Amazing? Yes...

...it is an amazing bit of CG. There were certain parts like the final landing that just didn't 'look right'. CG always looks too shiny and clean for me, plus there always seems to come a point when they artists get the motion wrong in a shot (even on high-quality shows like Dogfights or Battle 360).

There will be those that swear it's real, and the video has already launched a number of "could an aerobatic plane do this in real life" threads on various boards (IMHO: no, not with a real aircraft, but we see examples of R/C aircraft do it on YouTube--which were probably the original inspiration).

From what I see, this video broke out around 10/30/08. I'm waiting for snopes.com to debunk it.
 
Like Feng said, the blurring was a giveaway, LOL, cool video though. :ernae:
 
Being one who has done LOTS of home video of R/C flying, and airshow flying, as well as being a large scale R/C pilot with years of experience, I can assure you that the blurring I see is the autofocus on the camera working. I can believe that this aircraft, with a very experienced pilot, IS capable of doing this, because of the control reponse/authority available in these high G aerobatic aircraft. In the preview panel on Tom's inbed is another video of a giant scale R/C aircraft doing exactly the same thing, but from a different angle.

It was the knife-edge manuever that allowed the safe landing. The wings are pure symetrical airfoil, set at zero degrees, with huge ailerons. The fuse is airfoil shaped, and the wings attach on tubes. These aircraft can actually do knife-edge loops.

Until someone can do a frame by frame analysis to prove otherwise, I'll believe it.

BTW, the knife-edge manuever is the one flight capability that FS misses entirely. I try it in every aircaft I know is capable. Haven't found one able to do it, yet, in the sim. In fact, I haven't found one in the R/C sims yet either, that will do it properly. And, yes, the Staggerwing in my avatar WILL do a beautiful field long smooth knife-edge, even climbing a little.
 
If you'll check the other videos associated with that one (bottom of page), there is another fellow who also lost a wing, with the same type airplane. Makes me believe that this is a manoeuver that is done frequently...I flew R/C for many years, this would not surprise me at all...:ernae:

Oops, modelr beat me to it....
 
No, BB, the landing is not rediculous, nor is the bounce. The blurring is the autofocus on a handheld home video camera, NOT an expensive professional one. Look closely at the control throws. This is totally believable.

That aircraft is very light weight, extremely strong, built for very high G manuevers, ones that a normal aircraft would disinigrate from even trying. These things can fly in angles/manuevers that would challenge a hummingbird. In fact, a lot of them are tested as R/C models FIRST, nowadays, THEN built full-scale.
 
yes, this is definitely fake. It's done by an Ad company for the clothing line KillaThrill. I'm asking my friends to see if i can find the actual FX studio that did this. But judging from the so-so quality, it might be a smaller studio or just a few individuals on freelance. It would have looked a lot better if they went to ILM or WETA for the effects :)

I've worked on stuff like this in the past, and i assure you this is a marketing thing; and obviously it's working :)

-feng
 
modelr said:
No, BB, the landing is not rediculous, nor is the bounce. The blurring is the autofocus on a handheld home video camera, NOT an expensive professional one. Look closely at the control throws. This is totally believable.

That aircraft is very light weight, extremely strong, built for very high G manuevers, ones that a normal aircraft would disinigrate from even trying. These things can fly in angles/manuevers that would challenge a hummingbird. In fact, a lot of them are tested as R/C models FIRST, nowadays, THEN built full-scale.
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Sorry mate, from years working with Photoshop, I can tell a fake and if you watch the video of the pilot talking about it at that clothing site they are promoting, you can tell he is acting, poorly at that and trying to hold back a smirk. :d Oh and BTW, we are falling for exactly what they want, LOL
 
This is not a real video of a full size plane. Look at the direction of the spin. In a spin the outside (top) wing generates some lift while the inner is completely stalled. In this video, there is no wing on the outside of the spin.

This might be a vid of an R/C plane as their aerodynamics can be strange, but I'm going with the photoshop crowd.
 
BananaBob said:
This is one too that looks pretty real but is also CGI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZo1KBPKa7c&feature=related
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Awesome find, Bob! The only tip off for me is the white tail-light... looks too much like it does in FS! :icon_lol:

I think the ThrillaKill video is probably a combination of r/c and CG, with the finale completely CG. It wouldn't surprise me if someone finds the source video one of these days. I suspect this video is the inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsNIhBlyepc

That final sequence when the plane comes back into frame is too clean and shiny for real life, the landing too conveniently successful; plus the physics are all off--how wouldn't that plane bend the prop on the runway?

It certainly has the internet talking...mission accomplished.
 
I can tell by the comments made against this vid are ALL made by people who's ONLY knowledge about aircraft come from computers. So far, every real life R/C AND full scale pilot, believes this. How come?? Because we know the physics ARE possible in these kind of aircraft. These planes are actually DESIGNED to be capable of this. And if you've ever owned a home video camera and tried to follow an aerobatic routine, you would recognize the amature photography, and color discrepencies.

So CGI people, until this is shown frame by frame, or the original found, you aren't convincing me.

Also, some are asking why this would be so close to the crowd, etc. This didn't occur at an airshow. It was during a practice/test flight! Ground crew or friends only present. These guys don't just strap on these planes and fly at shows only. They fly seven days a week!
 
modelr said:
I can tell by the comments made against this vid are ALL made by people who's ONLY knowledge about aircraft come from computers. So far, every real life R/C AND full scale pilot, believes this. How come?? Because we know the physics ARE possible in these kind of aircraft. These planes are actually DESIGNED to be capable of this. And if you've ever owned a home video camera and tried to follow an aerobatic routine, you would recognize the amature photography, and color discrepencies.

So CGI people, until this is shown frame by frame, or the original found, you aren't convincing me.

Also, some are asking why this would be so close to the crowd, etc. This didn't occur at an airshow. It was during a practice/test flight! Ground crew or friends only present. These guys don't just strap on these planes and fly at shows only. They fly seven days a week!
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I know anything is possible but there are things that are just, "off" in the video, scales and movements that just don't cut it, the guy that gets out is real and the plane is fake and this could be done by masking, like already mentioned but hey, they got what they wanted, free advertisement, LOL:d
 
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