• There seems to be an uptick in Political comments in recent months. Those of us who are long time members of the site know that Political and Religious content has been banned for years. Nothing has changed. Please leave all political and religious comments out of the forums.

    If you recently joined the forums you were not presented with this restriction in the terms of service. This was due to a conversion error when we went from vBulletin to Xenforo. We have updated our terms of service to reflect these corrections.

    Please note any post refering to a politician will be considered political even if it is intended to be humor. Our experience is these topics have a way of dividing the forums and causing deep resentment among members. It is a poison to the community. We appreciate compliance with the rules.

    The Staff of SOH

  • Server side Maintenance is done. We still have an update to the forum software to run but that one will have to wait for a better time.

Pilot saved by parachute

G

Gregory Paul

Charter Member
"Tom Robert Granville, 63, of Orlando, Fla., was on his way from New Jersey to Spartanburg, S.C., when his Cirrus SR-22 four-seater plane made a loud noise and began vibrating and spewing oil onto the windshield, according to the story Granville told rescuers" to read the rest of the story follow the link below.

http://www.mtairynews.com/pages/full_story?page_label=news&id=2682048-Pilot+saved+by+parachute&widget=push&article-Pilot%20saved%20by%20parachute%20=&instance=news_special_coverage_right_column&open=&
 
Those ballistic chutes on Cirrus' have saved alot of people already.

Its also nice to have when you are over an urban area and no place to put down. Just gentlely drop down from the sky and hope you land in a yard or street.


Bill
 
Lionheart said:
Those ballistic chutes on Cirrus' have saved alot of people already.

Its also nice to have when you are over an urban area and no place to put down. Just gentlely drop down from the sky and hope you land in a yard or street.


Bill
Click to expand...

With my luck I'd land in a swimming pool or on a compost pile. :icon_eek:
 
Yet people are still killing themselves in those Cirrus planes!:isadizzy:
Gregory, you might have picked a better title for your thread.
I thought it was some gag about stating the obvious!:applause:
 
The Cirrus is a pretty plane but also an expensive piece of crap.....
very high maintenance........poor resale. Its like buying an expensive car and having everything fall apart after the first year.

The only reason that they have a ballistic chute is because it ( structually ) can't handle spins..............can you believe that sh*t ?!?!

When asked why not build it so that it is "spin certified" , the response was: "We decided that the ballistic parachute system was a viable alternative"..........................:isadizzy:

For that kind of money.....I'll take a well maintained Beechcraft Bonanza ( late 1960's early '70's) anyday!!!!!

PS...I'm a little biased.......I was trained heavily on spins.
 
luckydog said:
The Cirrus is a pretty plane but also an expensive piece of crap.....
very high maintenance........poor resale. Its like buying an expensive car and having everything fall apart after the first year.

The only reason that they have a ballistic chute is because it ( structually ) can't handle spins..............can you believe that sh*t ?!?!

When asked why not build it so that it is "spin certified" , the response was: "We decided that the ballistic parachute system was a viable alternative"..........................:isadizzy:

For that kind of money.....I'll take a well maintained Beechcraft Bonanza ( late 1960's early '70's) anyday!!!!!

PS...I'm a little biased.......I was trained heavily on spins.
Click to expand...

what do you think about the Columbia c400?

i flew the Cirrus SR22 a few times, and loved its performance and sexy looks. But you are right, their safely record is a bit scary...

so then i started to look into the Columbia...which now is owned by Cessna. Not many people have this plane, so i haven't had a chance to fly it. I do remember a fatal accident sometime last year involving this plane...apparently a hard landing or something (or x-wind?), caused the plane to flip over on touchdown and catch on fire...killing all onboard....worrisome...

-feng
 
Hey Feng.......

Will look into it..........

Just sent out an e-mail to several A&P/ AI's / pilots across America
to see what they know..............

Backatcha tomorrow

LD
 
thanks!

I'm curious to see what Cessna will do with the C400. I toyed around w/ the idea of getting this plane when it first came out, but after reading more about it, it think this plane is too much to handle for casual flying. A 182, Archer, etc. would be a lot more useful (just not as fast and sexy looking...my wife loves the SR22...but i just think it's too dangerous).

These high performance planes can be a handful at times...almost like driving a fast sports car. On straight roads, they do fine...but as soon as you hit a curve at high speeds...unless you are experienced, it is very easy to get into the dirt or worse yet, flip or crash the car (a friend of mine did this exact thing on a brand new 911! He was ok, but the car was in two pieces...wrapped around a telephone pole)

here are two accident reports (on the bottom of the page) involving the C400. However, the 1st one looks like pilot error (VFR, no flight plan, and flew into IMC). Second one might be a failed engine...

http://www.pilotsafetynews.com/PSN0511.htm

-feng
 
Crap or not... it did save his life. Not many other a/c can say that? Look at all those killed in civilian plane crashes this past year. He's one of the lucky few that could walk away from the crash.
 
Piglet said:
Yet people are still killing themselves in those Cirrus planes!:isadizzy:
Gregory, you might have picked a better title for your thread.
I thought it was some gag about stating the obvious!:applause:
Click to expand...


I may be a bit biased as I used to work for a Cirrus service center. The only problems on the Cirrus' that came into the shop were pilot induced.

One customer had a Mooney 201 with an aftermarket twin intercooled turbo set up on it.

The shop had to pull the engine twice in one year. First time was from a prop strike (on less than 20 hours after a full rebuild) and then four months later, the guys were swapping out the right rear jug after he toasted it.

Six months after that, same customer shows up with a brand new Cirrus SR-22 GTX. two months later.... Had to swap out a jug on the new plane.

As for many pilots killing themselves in the Cirrus'... I agree. It's not the airplane's fault in my opinion. Simply, pilots get into the mindset that with the chute, they can fly in situations beyond their abilities because they can always, "Pull the handle"

The problem is that they don't "pull the handle" and they end up making airplane shaped holes in the ground...

The only major work I saw being done to the Cirrus' in the shop were WAAS upgrades (Required airframe mods for the antennas) and problems with the Avedynes.

Stupid pilot issues keep cropping up. Had one guy taxi up to the shop complaining that both his displays had quit.

After some fiddling around and checking circuits, I looked in while the mech had his head under the panel and I noticed that the rheostats for the cockpit lighting were turned all the way down... hence, the displays were not visible in sunlight. I turned the knob the other way and voila... The displays were fine.

Too bad I couldn't have signed off on the logbook...

SR's are high strung aircraft, no doubt. But people like em' because they are faster than a Bonanza, fly higher and have fixed gear which their insurance companies like.

Myself, If I had the cash. I'd buy a nice Cessna 182Q, throw a nice set of Garmin radios in it, a Sandel 3308 Electronic HSI, Overhaul the engine and throw a BRS Chute in the back under an STC.


Brian
 
Glad to see the chute worked... Didn't one of the new Cessna prototypes chute fail to open...maybe twice?? I know it happened once... luckily the pilot had a chute of his own....

-witt
 
Wow, I hope there's more to this story than this. I don't think engine failure is a very good reason to turn the airframe into a write-off because the BRS was deployed.
 
As we talk, we got a Cirrus SR-22 in the shop. We did the annual part just fine (too many AD's for such a new design, tho). But the plane had suffered a heavy landing, and recieved damage.
The damage took a repair specalist a couple of weeks to repair. If that was a metal plane, we ourselves would have repaired it in 2-3 days!:ernae:
Gotta admit, tho, real nice to remove the interior with just a screwdriver!
 
I'm glad to see he made it unharmed.I never learned to fly for a couple of reasons,I used to ride motorcycles...like a madman.I could just see me in an airplane.I have terrible motion sickness and a depth perception problem.Thus the old saying that the ground will shoot you down 100% of the time....something I have proven numerous times on CFS 1+2.So I stay on the ground and dream,maybe a sailplane ride is in my future if I can keep from barfing on myself.:ernae:
 
safn1949 said:
I'm glad to see he made it unharmed.I never learned to fly for a couple of reasons,I used to ride motorcycles...like a madman.I could just see me in an airplane.I have terrible motion sickness and a depth perception problem.Thus the old saying that the ground will shoot you down 100% of the time....something I have proven numerous times on CFS 1+2.So I stay on the ground and dream,maybe a sailplane ride is in my future if I can keep from barfing on myself.:ernae:
Click to expand...


Sir,


Don't let these things deter you at all. I still have occasional air sickness on really bad days or when I haven't flown in a while. It's a constant operational consideration with me, but I won't let it ruin my one true passion in life, which is flying and flying hard. I regularly compete in amateur level aerobatics here in the states, and I teach aerobatics in a super decathlon. I've had rides in all sorts of military aircraft and kept it down most of the time. It's all what you do about it. By all standards, my vision is horrible too. I actually and positively NEED to bring spare glasses with me. Without my contacts or glasses, I count fingers at 4 feet.

I understand your need for speed too. You'd be surprised at how well the average private pilot is trained. They built a greater respect in me for aeronautical decision making and the responsibility of being a pilot in command than they did for flying on the edge.

If the monetary means and passion are there, don't let anything stop you. If you can't pass a flight medical and haven't been denied one before, your driver's license will be good enough for a sport pilot's license.

I wouldn't reccomend using a sailplane ride as an intro. They are bumpy by design: they have very low wingloading so that they can catch tons of air, and that equals really feeling the flying.
 
tigisfat said:
Sir,


Don't let these things deter you at all. I still have occasional air sickness on really bad days or when I haven't flown in a while. It's a constant operational consideration with me, but I won't let it ruin my one true passion in life, which is flying and flying hard. I regularly compete in amateur level aerobatics here in the states, and I teach aerobatics in a super decathlon. I've had rides in all sorts of military aircraft and kept it down most of the time. It's all what you do about it. By all standards, my vision is horrible too. I actually and positively NEED to bring spare glasses with me. Without my contacts or glasses, I count fingers at 4 feet.

I understand your need for speed too. You'd be surprised at how well the average private pilot is trained. They built a greater respect in me for aeronautical decision making and the responsibility of being a pilot in command than they did for flying on the edge.

If the mometary means and passion are there, don't let anything stop you. If you can't pass a flight medical and haven't been denied one before, your driver's license will be good enough for a sport pilot's license.

I wouldn't reccomend using a sailplane ride as an intro. They are bumpy by design: they have very low wingloading so that they can catch tons of air, and that equals really feeling the flying.
Click to expand...

well said!

i was also motion sick when i first started flight lessons (when i was younger, i couldn't even go on roller coasters!). But after a few weeks in training, i somehow learned to get rid of it. Now i don't have motion sickness at all, even during high-angle/speed spins. I can even read maps and stuff while in turb w/out sickness at all.

I think i can sleep through a roller coaster now as well...haha...

safn1949, you can go for a introduction flight at your local airport and just see how it goes (plus it's super cheap...most cost only $50 for 30-1hr flight).

-feng
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top