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Pulling what hair I got left on starting the B-52 Driver

papab

papab

Charter Member
I should of guessed...Capt Sim real life like aircraft and for the life of me I can not get it started....

Have read all three manuals with no luck.....
Would someone be so kind as to direct me on how to get this beast to light up?

I was able to figure out the Iris A-10 & Vulcan, but this is just frustrating..

Thanks for any input..

Happy Holidays
Rick B
 
I wish they would put a "real" "not so real" button in them. Seems like that's not asking to much and in return they may get more sales. I have their 767 but it's not installed because it's too real for me. Have not purchased their 707 or 727 or B52 or their upcoming 737 because their just to complicated.... four planes I would purchase if "not so real" was a option!

My .02$

David
 
Gordon Bennett, there's only 8

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1292118704 long thread

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1292173117 video might help

qoutes from CS---
Most likely all issues here have been caused by wrong throttle/cutoff positions.
This is a magic formula from Bill Gates:
Ctrl+Shift+F4 then F1 then Ctrl+E

You can start engines short way (using FSX hotkeys) of a long way (using cockpit controls), whatever it is but fuel cutoff must be OFF (Ctrl+Shift+F4) and trottle at IDLE (F1) BEFORE ignition.

Again, most likely all issues mentioned here have been caused by wrong throttle/fuel cutoff valve positions.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkZppl-3KWo another user video
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posted by Markoz reply #1 ---

Try this:

On the Co-Pilots Side Panel.

B14. BATTERY SWITCH PANEL -
Turn on the Battery Switch (Shift+M) - Pressing Shift+M also turns on the 4 Generator Switches listed in the next section.

B01. ELECTRICAL PANEL -
Turn ON the Main External Power Switch.
Turn ON the 4 Generator Switches.
Turn the Frequency And Voltmeter Selector Switch to CENTRAL TIP BUS

B07. ENG START CONTROL PANEL
Turn on the Starter Switches for the engine you want to start first, they are in pairs (1 & 2, 3 & 4, 5 & 6 and 7 & 8).

I'm working on something more substantial, but I can and did get them started that way. Also. I did pull all engines into reverse (F2), then I returned them to the stop position (F1). I do this when N2 reaches 20%.
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CS has asked those who still have problems to contact by ticket or forum.
 
Pepere said:
I wish they would put a "real" "not so real" button in them. Seems like that's not asking to much and in return they may get more sales. I have their 767 but it's not installed because it's too real for me. Have not purchased their 707 or 727 or B52 or their upcoming 737 because their just to complicated.... four planes I would purchase if "not so real" was a option!

My .02$

David
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David, I completely agree about overly complex planes that require an advanced degree to get going. Realism is great, but it'd be nice if there was a shortcut for those of us with limited time or patience.

I've got their 727 though, and you might want to give it another look. It's actually not that complex to operate. That's probably true of the 707, too... if you set it up with the engines running as your startup flight, you can get it airborne with a minimum of fuss. And man, does it ever look good!
 
spotlope said:
I've got their 727 though, and you might want to give it another look. It's actually not that complex to operate. That's probably true of the 707, too... if you set it up with the engines running as your startup flight, you can get it airborne with a minimum of fuss. And man, does it ever look good!
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Ya - I will probably will get the 737-100 because it's not modeled anywhere else. As for the 707 and 727 I managed to get CS707 and 727 FS9 running in FSX with smoke and mirrors.

David
 
welllllllll, i dont own the b-52 ( but may just so i can paint a pan am livery on it ), but it is a boeing, and should have some things in comon with the other boeings. For other boeings (and hopefully this will help ), start with the top of the overhead panel and working your way down, switch on the battery power and check that its providing power. If not select EPU/GPU. If the battery is supplying power, make sure your busses are turned on. if the busses are all turned on, select the APU and start it up. Once the APU is started, bring your throttle to idle and ensure that the fuel is turned on. select engine 1 and press the starter.. that SHOULD get you going, but not having the plane, i cant be certain.. my apologies..

If you need to start with ground power, simply select ground power and then select each engine to start them up. Dont forget to go back up to the overhead and turn on the generator switch as well once the engines are running..

Pam

PS:: Battery should be on the DC switch and generator should be on the AC switch.... sorry
 
I thank you all for the help...
I am still not able to get them to light-tried all he suggestions in the forum, even uninstalled and reinstalled, nope not working...

I guess I will go back to the Buff for now....

Thanks again for the help!!!


Rick
 
I too cannot get off the ground in the B52.
I can start Engines and they all idle at 20% but fuel flow says 0 and i cannot throttle up.
Tried the video instructions to a tee and his fuel flow starts but mine doesn't.
All my fuel switches are in the same position as the video but nothing. The dials keep reading no fuel.

Have given up, i have tried for several hours using all the different methods.
 
I wish they would put a "real" "not so real" button in them
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I always prefer a manual start - immediate immersion and sense of anticipation - and have their CS C130 and 727. Sadly I don't fly them much because they are so finnicky to start. I HAVE gotten both to start, less than half the time, in which case the more fully modelled systems and steps are that much more satisfying. What ruins it is that the next time doing the same thing it's a no go. I have searched and found all the step by step instructions on their forums but still have inconsistent results.

Sometimes re-loading the entire a/c works, sometimes not. Even if it works that kind of kills the mood though. Sometimes banging on the fuel open/shut keys, i.e. Ctrl+Shift+F4 works, sometimes not. I think in FSX this often stymmies portovers from starting manually but also suspect it can open as well as shut the valve and you can't often tell which way it's switched.

What I can't afford - I don't have much time for flying - is going through all the steps and then the engines don't light. Time to select another aircraft. Otherwise, CS stuff is high quality.
 
*OT* Dumb Question *OT*

Why is it referred to here as a B-52 "Driver"? What's a "B-52 Driver", if not the pilot?
 
Well their B707. 727, etc. packages are referred to as "Captain". Presumably they decided to use "Driver" as the military don't tend to use "Captain" as the person in charge of the aircraft? They'd normally use "Aircraft Commander", but that's not particularly catchy, I suppose. I don't know - I'm only guessing.

One thing I can say though, which is wrong with all three "classic" CS aircraft I have tried to start (C130X, B707X and B727X), is that in order to get the engines to light, I have to introduce fuel before activating the start switch. This is very wrong - if you did that on a real aircraft, you'd have a fire on your hands (a damaging hot start at least) - but it's the only way I can get any of them to start. Therefore, try pushing fuel levers forward and possibly pressing shift-ctrl-f4, before you start turning the engines. If I do this, wincing every time I do it, I can get the engines to light and run every time.

I'd be interested to know if this works on the B52 as well.

Cheers,

Ian P.
 
Though the BUFF looks really great, it has not elevated to the status above "museum piece". I got power in the cockpit, got the windshield whipers working but that's about it! No engines running at all, not even a small puff!

Not happy with the bird so far. Hope CS will make a patch for quick start and make it a real "Fun Line Product"!
 
I'm curious..
Does this thing have fuel boost pumps on it that have to be turned on before you start?? And does it need the apu running even with ground power before it will run??
 
It's not only the engine start, they screwed up the flight dynamics and the wing flex animation as well.
As is one of my favourite planes IRL it's really sad that this one is a no-go for me :(
 
in order to get the engines to light, I have to introduce fuel before activating the start switch. This is very wrong - if you did that on a real aircraft, you'd have a fire on your hands
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Precisely! Such a shame, as on e.g. the Herc, you have a great simulated electrical panel and APU start up and sound. Makes it seem all so real. You get ready to start the engines . . until you have to intentionally "hot start" it with the opposite of the correct procedure. Anyone familiar with the Aeorworx King Air will know how accurately that aspect of adding fuel to a turbine - and crucially, when - was modelled.
 
Now i have the engines puffing and running (sort off). The moment i increase the throttles a little bit two, four or all engines quit. Also when starting the plane starts to drift either left or right (with parking brakes applied and throttles to idle!?!).

Nope, gonna delete this bird from FSX! No fun for me! :gameoff:

Will await patches and or updates before i install this bird again, otherwise it will be 25 Euro's down the drain!

Edit: I know CS has realism as a high priority (and i can appreciate that with the C-130 for example, which is still one of my favorite planes). But the BUFF advertised as a "fun line" (not a pro or experience-line) aircraft i do expect eyecandy with at least the option of a stable and fully functional quick start. Perhaps a misjudgement from my side :-(
 
expat said:
Anyone familiar with the Aeorworx King Air will know how accurately that aspect of adding fuel to a turbine - and crucially, when - was modelled.
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Or the DodoSim B206, which will quite happily blow a raspberry and a lot of flame at you just for having the wind blowing in the wrong end of the engine and slowing down the airflow through it.

Call me a systems freak, but I love evil aircraft that bite back if you mishandle them - I really miss the Aeroworx King Air in FSX.

Ian P.
 
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