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RE: Photos of aircraft from the Udvar-Hazy Center, National Air and Space Museum

brad kaste

brad kaste

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RE: Photos of aircraft from the Udvar-Hazy Center, National Air and Space Museum

.....A chap who goes by the name of 'armyjunk' posted these 101 photos of various aircraft displayed at the Udvar-Hazy Center. Top shelf quality throughout. I've gone back and forth on them a few times to pick up things I might have missed.
My favorite is the orange and black trimmed (F3F "Flying Barrel"?) with the name GULFHAWK painted on it's side. Quite an eye catcher.

Http://www.cdsg.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=320


 
Ok got my breath back. I visited DC many many years ago and in two days didn't even scratch the surface of the museums there. I still want to take two weeks and wear out a pair of sneaks!! Thanks for the link.:applause:
 
Beautiful collection of aircraft. Would really love to see the RF-8G and F-14 in more attractive paint jobs than those boring low-vis schemes they're wearing.
 
stiz said:
blooming heck, that place has a bit of everything!! :isadizzy:
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Geez, the question could almost be: what don't they have there?! (Hmmm, actually, I didn't see any Mirage ;))
I also was feeling dizzy looking at all these pictures. I guess some of the old planes may be replicas (?), but it's still just AMAZING... I loved the still very weathered P-38, the B-29, the N1K2-J Shiden KAI, the Aichi M6A1 Seiran, the Do 335 Pfeil, the Nakajima J1N1, the He 219 fuselage, the Hellcat, the F-105, the Vought OS2U Kingfisher, the Boeing 307 Stratoliner... and so many others...
 
brad kaste said:
.....A chap who goes by the name of 'armyjunk' posted these 101 photos of various aircraft displayed at the Udvar-Hazy Center. Top shelf quality throughout. I've gone back and forth on them a few times to pick up things I might have missed.
My favorite is the orange and black trimmed (F3F "Flying Barrel"?) with the name GULFHAWK painted on it's side. Quite an eye catcher.

Http://www.cdsg.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=320
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It's a Grumman G-22 "Gulfhawk II", civilian aerobatic variant of the F3F, the only one built.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?id=A19490059000

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww15/f/1511/3_p/0/1
 
Goodness!

How can so many famous, classic, actual planes be located in one single location......? How???


Where is this place!?

They have a Stratoliner, SR-71, a Concorde, Connie, famous air racers, prototypes...

Thanks for the heads up Brad. I'll have to find out where this place is and plan a visit.
 
That place has changed since I was last there. That explains the "Enola Gay" I thounght it was a different B-29 painted up to look like the Enola Gay. When I visited the Museum they only had the fuselage of the Enola Gay in a special exhibit on dropping the Atomic bomb.

Excellent pictures. Thanks for the link.
 
I was in DC a couple of years ago for 4th of July. And made it a requirement to visit the NASM and Udav-Hazy Center before flying home. I'll just say that in three days I don't believe I was able to see everything there was to see.
 
Lionheart said:
Goodness!

How can so many famous, classic, actual planes be located in one single location......? How???


Where is this place!?

They have a Stratoliner, SR-71, a Concorde, Connie, famous air racers, prototypes...

Thanks for the heads up Brad. I'll have to find out where this place is and plan a visit.
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Udvar-Hazy is located on the grounds at Dulles International, outside of DC. It's the long-awaited new "wing" of the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum, built to accomodate some of the planes the museum has restored at their Silver hill MD facility . Most of these projects have been rolled out to UH, and the phase 2 plan for the site at Dulles is to create a restoration hangar right there on site.

Heck you could fly straight into Dulles and never see DC...
 
Deckard said:
Geez, the question could almost be: what don't they have there?! (Hmmm, actually, I didn't see any Mirage ;))
I also was feeling dizzy looking at all these pictures. I guess some of the old planes may be replicas (?), but it's still just AMAZING... I loved the still very weathered P-38, the B-29, the N1K2-J Shiden KAI, the Aichi M6A1 Seiran, the Do 335 Pfeil, the Nakajima J1N1, the He 219 fuselage, the Hellcat, the F-105, the Vought OS2U Kingfisher, the Boeing 307 Stratoliner... and so many others...
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There isn't a replica in the place. They are all original aircraft. And you should see what all they have stashed back in their storage facility in Maryland awaiting restoration. The stuff of legends (Ta 152H, Ho 229, last surviving aircraft from the Pearl Harbor attack,........).

They've been collecting aircraft since at least WWII.
 
Willy said:
There isn't a replica in the place. They are all original aircraft. And you should see what all they have stashed back in their storage facility in Maryland awaiting restoration. The stuff of legends (Ta 152H, Ho 229, last surviving aircraft from the Pearl Harbor attack,........).

They've been collecting aircraft since at least WWII.
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So true Willy. In August 1995, I went to Andrews AFB for the annual airshow. Since Silver Hill was right in the back door. I went over to see the facility not expecting to see anything in the warehouse and I didn't, then. It was late and they were almost ready to close the doors. But a modeling friend I know worked there and he told me to come back in the AM and we'd take a tour. Man, you would not believe the stuff in that place. Much of the work on the planes I saw has been done and the planes are now at U-H, but that place looks like my attic full of unfinished models, there is no way in one's lifetime to do them all! And they are still collecting! There are several good air museums in VA, the Virginia Aviation Museum at Richmond International has the largest collection of Golden Age planes you can find, the one in Hampton should not be overlooked either. But by far, the best museum in the Tidewater area has nothing to do with aircraft. If you're ever in the VA Tidewater area, do not, and I stress this, miss a visit of the Mariners' Museum. Allow two days. I spent half a day looking at the intricate models alone.

Bill, ya need a trip to the right coast for a change of scenery. All museums are better visited during week days in lieu of the weekend, especially U-H and the Mariner's Museum. My oldest son and I are museum hounds, we'll go to everyone we see. I would not put it beyond my oldest to major in some field where he could work in or for a museum, he loves them that much!

Oh, and being a complete scrag hound for anything about the American Civil War, while in Richmond, go to the Museum of the Confederacy. Lots of artifacts in the Old Dominion, y'all come visit.

Caz
 
Oh yes, Richmond! When I was stationed in Norfolk just before I retired from the Navy, I went up there a few times on Saturdays and visited the Museum of the Confederacy and the Confederate White House. Also big on my weekend excursions were Colonial Williamsburg and both Jamestowns (the original and the recreation). I spent a lot of Saturdays at those places.

And I loved the Mariner's Museum as well. If I'd have been more into aircraft back then, I'd have had to go on up to DC as well.
 
Willy said:
There isn't a replica in the place. They are all original aircraft. And you should see what all they have stashed back in their storage facility in Maryland awaiting restoration. The stuff of legends (Ta 152H, Ho 229, last surviving aircraft from the Pearl Harbor attack,........).

They've been collecting aircraft since at least WWII.
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Thanks for this exciting info! :)
 
Cazzie said:
So true Willy. In August 1995, I went to Andrews AFB for the annual airshow. Since Silver Hill was right in the back door. I went over to see the facility not expecting to see anything in the warehouse and I didn't, then. It was late and they were almost ready to close the doors. But a modeling friend I know worked there and he told me to come back in the AM and we'd take a tour. Man, you would not believe the stuff in that place. Much of the work on the planes I saw has been done and the planes are now at U-H, but that place looks like my attic full of unfinished models, there is no way in one's lifetime to do them all! And they are still collecting! There are several good air museums in VA, the Virginia Aviation Museum at Richmond International has the largest collection of Golden Age planes you can find, the one in Hampton should not be overlooked either. But by far, the best museum in the Tidewater area has nothing to do with aircraft. If you're ever in the VA Tidewater area, do not, and I stress this, miss a visit of the Mariners' Museum. Allow two days. I spent half a day looking at the intricate models alone.

Bill, ya need a trip to the right coast for a change of scenery. All museums are better visited during week days in lieu of the weekend, especially U-H and the Mariner's Museum. My oldest son and I are museum hounds, we'll go to everyone we see. I would not put it beyond my oldest to major in some field where he could work in or for a museum, he loves them that much!

Oh, and being a complete scrag hound for anything about the American Civil War, while in Richmond, go to the Museum of the Confederacy. Lots of artifacts in the Old Dominion, y'all come visit.

Caz
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Caz ...... You and the boys need to come visit me then if they like trains!! :) We have the only surviving N&W J and A Class engines left in the world.

Don
 
Being a former "native" of Richmond, VA I can attest to all and any of the fine museums and other "tourist traps" in the area. (I use to live in Mechanicsville. In fact, what use to be my house, sits on the federal side of Beaver Dam Creek and is but a good stones throw from the actual deliniated battlefield park site. It was nothing for me to get up on a weekend and go for a "trapse" in the woods there just outside the borders of the park and still find "relics" and visible signs of the conflict that took place there. In fact during the construction of the subdivision, they had to call the bomb squad in a couple of times to remove and then discharge several unexploded confederate rounds of artillery shells.)

The ulitmate experience is to take the Battlefield tour. Starting from the site of the (at the time) world's largest hospital on Chimbrazo Heights.

They use to have what was known as Living History demonstrations where park employees would dress up in period outfits and do first person interviews and other demonstrations. The NBP in Petersburg, has/or had a live fire artillery demo, where a four horse drawn limber hauled a 12 pound field gun out at a gallop and then wheeled into position and unlimbered the gun and fired a round. Good excitement for five minutes as you hear the thunder of the hooves of the horses and the cries of the mounted artillerymen as they come from behind an earthwork and run the gun to position and all the men jump from the mounts and get the gun ready to fire in less than two minutes. Lots of smoke and a big bang with plenty of "natural" recoil from the gun as it discharges.

Always a crowd pleaser.

On a side note: I actually got into a major discussion with a park ranger one day about the location of Mr. Ellerson's Mill at Beaver Dam Creek, he claimed it was on one side of the flood plain and had no verification for that other than a couple of "non period" drawings and some other documents. I claimed the mill was in the middle of the flood plain and built on piers over the creek as the mill was an "under flow water wheel". (Gaines' Mill was an over flow water wheel, and parts of that mill still exist, or did when I was living in the area.) I found the piers and other foundation evidences and unfortunately, never got a chance to get back with Rick and take him on a walk.

Sorry for the hijack
 
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