Reload

Can't Reload, Can't refuel ( really short bursts ) like 12 or 18 is long

You can select Unlimited Ammo in WORKSHOP, but that's cheating :costumes:

PS . . Best get into the short Burst habit. Phase 3 Will feature Guns that jam

The most likely cause of jamming, excessive heat, caused by tooo long a Burst :applause:
 
reload

ok I thought that might be the case. But what happens when a mission asks you to attack a ground target like the train station and you don't have the ammo for that? The return waypionts don't show up as you haven't fulfilled your mission . at least they didn't fo me and I couldn't land and reload so I had to navigate back while being chased by 2 albitros (albitri?):d. Kinda sucks because if i could reload I could find a nearby base and return for some damage. Of course I coulb be missing something as far as that mission goes too. Overall I am loving OFFp2 and am eagerly awaiting P3 even if my 'puter can't handle the level of graphics that is will be capible of.
 
Shift+w go to next waypoint. If it doesn't hang around a while longer should eventually..
 
Doing your Duty ????

Duty #1 is to Survive
If you are Flying as a German, I would circle the target, throw 1 burst ( just to show, I've been been there) and head towards home.

Aren't you going to feel like a class 'A' idiot, when you get jumped by 3 enemy Aircraft, and you left all your ammo at the RR yard.

British, you can loadout with Bombs or Rockets. Use them. then head towards home :kilroy:
 
Hello,
fulfilling duties, hmm, i found out that after some time - even if i did NOT fulfill the duty to attack e.g. a railway station - the waypoints finally appear. Even if you are already on your way back (and having not fulfilled the mission goal) they appear ...

Problem is while you wait and circle too long some enemies may appear, especially in 1918 ... and if you fly 1 Pfalz against 8 SPADs there is no really a chance other than to drop like a stone and land ... :redf:

B.t.w. attacking Railway stations, in a scout plane with two MGs ? Did this really happen ?

Greetings,
Catfish
 
Waypoints in OFF are meaningless and there is no need to hit them. You get no bonus or credit for doing so. The only significance of waypoints will be for those people who want to use 'warp', in which case the waypoints are simply where warp will take you.

The same applies to your mission objectives...OFF doesn't give you any bonus for shooting up ground targets or even for arriving at the target location.

Success in OFF is basically surviving and doing your duty (as Gimpy says), just as a real pilot would try to do. Fly the way a real pilot would. If out of ammo, would a real life pilot go on to the target and fly in circles? Nope, he would fly straight home regardless of what supposed waypoints were planned.

I fly by paper maps and so I never, ever, hit all the waypoints nor do I ever get the stupid immesion-killing CSF3 'mission complete' banner. So what...that has nothing to do with OFF. I know in my own mind if my mission has been successful or not, if I did my duty, and that is all that matters.
 
There are a couple of different ways to navigate using maps.

If you want to navigate using roads and rivers then Cpirrmans recent posts in another thread cover it well:

The maps on Polovski's sight are good but inaccurate. The best ones are from MS Encarta's web site. The roads, rivers, railroads and towns are 99.9% accurate with WM's scenery...I take fine point markers and enhance the details. Orange for roads, green for rivers, and black for RR's. I keep them in plastic sleeves and use grease pencils to mark landmarks, airfields, army bases, balloons etc, as I spot them. If you fly the region long enough, you'll get to know it like the back of your hand. IRL, we fly with accurate charts that we mark up.

Myself, I navigate using only the airfields, cities and the frontline for references because these are all really easy to see from long distances. At the first mission briefing of a campaign I will usually just hand sketch a simple paper map of these features based on the CSF3 briefing map. Another good option is to use FRAPS to capture and print the CSF3 briefing map.

As Cpirrman says above, after a few flights you rarely need the map anymore as you have learned the local area.
 
B.t.w. attacking Railway stations, in a scout plane with two MGs ? Did this really happen ?
Greetings,
Catfish

Can't say for sure, but a Railway Stations are always packed with Troops.during war
Which would be a juicy target for those MGs. 3 planes is 6 guns, a couple strafing runs, would be alot of damage

Plus the British Aircraft carried those small Bombs, taking out a Locomotive would be reason for an attack
 
I'm no expert either, but I do believe that these types of ground attacks became fairly common in the later stages of the war. I recall from reading Rickenbackers memoir a year or two ago that strafing trenches and troop columns was common, and am pretty sure he mentioned at least once an attack on enemy troop trains.
 
Yep. When pilots were flying low and a target of opportunity such as troop culumns, locomotives, lorries and such would come along, pilots were tempted to spray a couple extra bursts into these. Even if they didnt damage much it would surely upset the enemy's actions for a little while at least.

-Rooster
 
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