Scenery.cfg won't update

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Fauville

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Just got a new Pc, running Vista.

Done a fresh install of FS2004, and have started to add scenery etc.

Dropped them into Addon Scenery, activated in game, closed then reopened game and sceneries work (about 30 so far over the past week) -BUT

the scenery.cfg has not updated to show the new addys.:isadizzy:

Tried to add a minor exclude line to the Western Europe line - opened in notepad, added line, save - can't find file, save as, won't let me.:confused:

No such problems in my old XP rig.

Is this a Vista thing??

Haven't even tried to edit any Aircraft CFG's yet......

Anyone
 
I have Vista....in a drawer way across the room from my computer. It is things like what you are experiencing that prevent me from installing it.

I have heard/read of issues similar to what you are now experiencing from other Vista users. If you have your old XP install discs.....go back to XP. You and FS9 will be much happier.

OBIO
 
Did you turn off the User Account Control (UAC)? Do you have administrator permissions?
This is a classic example of the interference of the UAC. Turn it off, you won't miss it.
 
The security systems in Vista are not always allowing you to make changes in the Programs folder. So you problem is most likely a safety conflict with Vista.

As far as I know, switching of the "User Account Control" like Ephram suggested is the only way to by-pass this problem.

Huub
 
I have Vista ( for a couple of years ) and had the initial problem of not being able to alter the aircraft cfg etc.

Changing this fixed it ..........

Turn off 'User Account Control'
Control Panel - User Accounts - Turn User Account Control Off

I've not had any problems since.

Pete
 
If you are doing a 'visual scan' for changes on the config, and you have copied the installation of FS onto a new OS or drive, then what I think has happened is you have a scenery config in two different places. vista keeps things in different places then XP does. I just found this out as I now have my FS in another drive now (exterior) and I found 2 scenery configs as well, one was in FS, one in the documents folder. The one in FS was the good one that was updating.




Bill
 
All this advice to turn off UAC worries me.
UAC is the core of the improved security of Vista and being part of the OS (rather than sitting on top of the OS like all normal Antivirus or Firewall software) is the ultimate backstop for protecting against malicious attacks. All "sitting on top" security software is vulnerable to attack or circumvention but any virus will still have to be manually ok`d by you (thanks to UAC) before it can do any damage.

Yes it can be annoying but you do get used to it after a while. I actually find it reassuring when the UAC prompt pops up as it reminds me I am being protected

Its a personal choice of course but I would never switch it off and certainly never recommend to anyone else to do so.

For older programs like FS2004 it is better to just unprotect the FS program folder by modifying the folder security settings to allow full read/write access by "everyone". This way all the files within that folder will be editable without compromising the security of the rest of your system.

In the case in this thread the scenery.cfg IS being edited but because it is in a protected location the edited version is virtualized (redirected to a non-protected location). It can be found in C:\users\<username>\Appdata\Local\virtualstore\ followed by the path to the real folder (eg Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\scenery.cfg). FS2004 is using this copy of the scenery.cfg when running becuse it was FS2004 that caused it to be created when you added areas to the scenery library from within FS. If you turn off UAC then FS2004 will revert back to the one in the FS folder and all your recent additions will vanish

If you install FS to a non-protected location (eg C:\games\FS2004\) then you don`t get any of these problems.

Although it is an MS program FS2004 was not written following the full Microsoft programming guidelines so ironically is not Vista-compliant.
 
Thanks Martin for that explanation, makes sense, though looked in my C-users-username- but no appdata file that i can see...,

I assume the virtualized Sc.cfg can be edited if I can find it.

Went to FS9 folder, and set the security access open to admin/users/system, there is an entry for CREATOR OWNER, that one also??
 
It was overkill of the UAC that made it rediculous. It actually ruined the business for vista, causing its owners to either turn off UAC or go back to WinXP, or jump to Mac OSX (or Linux) like I did.

If UAC keeps you from being able to run your computer efficiently, and steps in the way and keeps you from doing work on your computer, and running files and programs, then what good is it? Securities should run silently in the background, not cause bottlenecks and slow down work flow efficiency.


My humble two cents on that.


Bill
 
To see all the folders you will probably need to set your global Folder options to include "show hidden files and folders" (Explorer ....Tools->Folder Options->View)

To Lionheart - UAC doesn`t stop me from doing anything I need to do. The minor annoyance of having to ok the security prompt is something you quickly get used to. Properly written software should be minimally intrusive and only involve UAC when actually doing "secure" things. Of course most legacy software isn`t written properly so things appear worse than they should

Like you I though UAC was a major drawback when I tried other peoples Vista setups before I got Vista myself. Then I went to a Microsoft Developers seminar where some of the actual dev team involved explained exactly what it does, why it does it and, most importantly, why it has to function the way it does in order to be truly secure and leave no loopholes for a hacker to get in. It was a real eye-opener and (amazingly for MS) it all made perfect sense.

Security costs. We could have faster running computers if we removed Virus checkers, Spam catchers and Firewalls but we don`t. I know from my own (painful) experience that you can have the latest AV on your system and still get a virus if the hackers are currently ahead of the AV company in the endless armsrace.

Personal choice. But only turn it off if you know what you are doing and what the risk are

Fauville - there should be a "users" Group in the list. Set this group to have "full control" to make the folder unprotected
 
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