SECTIONF8 F-86 air start

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PhantomP

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HI I have gone over the reference and manual, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to start from flameout in mid air. What are the switches set to. I set fuel transfer on ,emergency fuel on, battery on, and emergency ignition on and throttle off but tweaked like it is when you star from ground for fuel mixture. What am I doing wrong ,also do you need to drop fuel tanks for this procedure and do I now use emergency ignition to start now or just the regular starter Thanks:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
PhantomP said:
Wow can anybody answer this
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...probably not without actually reading the manual! :costumes:

Remember there are 2 documents, a .pdf manual and an HTML Ref.
This from the latter:
11. GLIDE AND AIRSTART
Flame-out landings should only be attempted by pilots who have satisfactorily completed simulated flame-out approaches in this airplane. If at any time during the flame-out approach, conditions do not appear ideal for successful completion of the landing, ejection should be accomplished. Eject no later than the "Low-Key" altitude.
[ ] ThrottleOFF [ ] Establish glide185 KNOTS IAS(For maximum glide distance, the optimum gliding speed is 185 Kts. IAS with gear and flaps up, speed brakes in, and no external load) [ ] Engine master switchCHECK ON [ ] Generator switchCHECK ON [ ] Battery-starter switchCHECK ON (BATTERY) [ ] Engine RPM for airstart
CHECK WITHIN LIMITS
(23% TO 34%)[FS: Engine windmilling is not simulated. Minimum airspeed needed for airstart is 185 Kts. IAS.] a. ThrottleOFF b. Emergency ignition switchON c. Emergency fuel switchON(Do not turn on emergency fuel system unless main system has actually failed. Emergency system should be used, if fuel pressure remains low with throttle stick shifted outboard, ie. indicating fuel pump failure.) d. ThrottleOUTBOARD, THEN ADVANCE(Advance smoothly to maintain exhaust temperature within limits) e. Exhaust temperatureCHECK (for rise in temperature) f. Emergency ignition switchOFF(Ignition system may be damaged if left ON more than 3 minutes per start. If engine fails to start, and time and altitude permit, attempt further air starts using procedures a to f)
 
This may be of little help, but here’s is what happened to me:

I failed to read the entire book, and instead just jumped in and took off after reading the take off and landing chapters. I knew to put the flaps all the way down, and to set the elevator trim to 2 degrees nose up (or until the “idiot light” tells me to let off the darn trim button.) But because I didn’t read the whole book, I didn’t know that you had to open the drop tank fuel shutoff valves or you would never feed gas from the DTs. So, on a long flight the engine conked out while at 25000 feet. Lucky for me I was flying online with the usual suspects, and MM told me about the drop tank shut off valves, and the fuel transfer pump switch, located up forward on the right console. After placing the switch to on, and opening the drop tank shutoff value, the engine just started by itself, and the big dummy landed without incident. I never did move the throttle from its cruise setting.
 
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