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Steak or Hamburger?
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cheezyflier
Charter Member
my tounge would say steak. my teeth (both of them) would say burger. 
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6297J
Guest
It's not the same thing at all!
Steak is a real cut of meat taken from specific areas to ensure tenderness and quality.
Hamburgers are 'made from' meat, filler, water and fat and the meat involved would be deemed inedible if you knew where it came from
You might want to read this - (sorry - that was a link to a pdf which didn't seem to work - but it wasn't pleasant reading - it talked about 'unexpected tissue types' such as blood vessels, nerve and muscle tissue, commonly found in Hamburger 'meat' )
Steak is a real cut of meat taken from specific areas to ensure tenderness and quality.
Hamburgers are 'made from' meat, filler, water and fat and the meat involved would be deemed inedible if you knew where it came from
You might want to read this - (sorry - that was a link to a pdf which didn't seem to work - but it wasn't pleasant reading - it talked about 'unexpected tissue types' such as blood vessels, nerve and muscle tissue, commonly found in Hamburger 'meat' )
It's not the same thing at all!
Steak is a real cut of meat taken from specific areas to ensure tenderness and quality.
Hamburgers are made from meat, filler, water and fat and the meat involved would be deemed inedible if you knew where it came from
You might want to read this - (sorry - that was a link to a pdf which didn't seem to work - but it wasn't pleasant reading - it talked about 'unexpected tissue types' such as blood vessels, nerve and muscle tissue, commonly found in Hamburger 'meat' )
eeeks....
Ok.. Thats good to know.
Bill
Snuffy
Happiness Consultant
... Hamburgers are 'made from' meat, filler, water and fat and the meat involved would be deemed inedible if you knew where it came from
Didn't I already say that?
Snuffy said:When I buy ground beef, I usually buy ground sirloin. "Hamburger" as a rule is made from "leftover" parts.
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6297J
Guest
You did, kind of. Breadcrumbs (filler) and water are not strictly speaking 'leftover parts' of a carcass but, yes the same thing was implied at least 
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?If you happen to have a smaller or family owned meat market in your area or even grocery stores with butcher shops, the hamburger won't have the fillers. Usually, old dairy cattle meat is used for hamburger along with the leftover parts of other breeds. Sirloin and chuck meat have less fat.
I will take a steak (medium rare) over a burger any day,
I will take a steak (medium rare) over a burger any day,
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6297J
Guest
I guess the ideal is to make your own Hamburgers from 100% prime beef - many people do just that of course.
Burgers from MacWendyKing however are a different kettle of bits
Burgers from MacWendyKing however are a different kettle of bits
Henry
Retired SOH Administrator
if you go to the grocery store
and look in the real meat section
you will see ground chuck etc
and the amount of fat and others
you can get cheap steaks lots of fat etc
it comes down to the cut and where its cut from
Steak vs hamburger
i dont want a porterhouse in my spaghetti
to me hamburger is a US term
in jolly old
we call it minced beef
and that would be all kinds of minced beef
just get some minced beef tenderloin
and take out a mortgage
LOL
H
they are the same
just the cut or minced
the same with lamb
i guess once it is minced who knows what it was before it got minced
personaly i use pork, lamb and beef minced for different things
not too fond of rabbit though:isadizzy:
H
and look in the real meat section
you will see ground chuck etc
and the amount of fat and others
you can get cheap steaks lots of fat etc
it comes down to the cut and where its cut from
Steak vs hamburger
i dont want a porterhouse in my spaghetti
to me hamburger is a US term
in jolly old
we call it minced beef
and that would be all kinds of minced beef
just get some minced beef tenderloin
and take out a mortgage
LOL
H
they are the same
just the cut or minced
the same with lamb
i guess once it is minced who knows what it was before it got minced
personaly i use pork, lamb and beef minced for different things
not too fond of rabbit though:isadizzy:
H
Blackbird686
SOH-CM-2025
LOL!!!
I reckon it's just how you want to eat it. As long as you DON'T know what it was... it doesn't matter, right H?
BB686:USA-flag:
Bill Kestell
Charter Member
When time is NOT a problem ... steak
When I'm on the go ... NOTHING beats a good 80/20 burger on a well-buttered, Sheboygan Hard Roll ... with about a 1/4" thick slice of a good sweet onion! The burger shall NOT be too well done ... but not too rare either ... when PROPERLY cooked ... the meat's fully cooked (which brings out that incredible "meaty" flavor) ... but it's still tasty and juicy. (You swabbies will have to be standing up and doing the "FORWARD LEAN" if you're going to eat one of these and keep your whites clean).
DAMN ... NOW I'VE GONE AND MADE MYSELF HUNGRY!
I'm outa' here ... gotta' go find me one of them RIGHT NOW!:isadizzy:
When I'm on the go ... NOTHING beats a good 80/20 burger on a well-buttered, Sheboygan Hard Roll ... with about a 1/4" thick slice of a good sweet onion! The burger shall NOT be too well done ... but not too rare either ... when PROPERLY cooked ... the meat's fully cooked (which brings out that incredible "meaty" flavor) ... but it's still tasty and juicy. (You swabbies will have to be standing up and doing the "FORWARD LEAN" if you're going to eat one of these and keep your whites clean).
DAMN ... NOW I'VE GONE AND MADE MYSELF HUNGRY!
I'm outa' here ... gotta' go find me one of them RIGHT NOW!:isadizzy:
Steak.
but sometimes you just have to have one, well two of...
Nick's Hamburgers, in business since 1929! YUM!
Nicks is great.
You come in, grab a stool, they take your order.
Most times they never write it down, they remember what you ordered from memory.
You order as you go, to keep 'em coming to you fresh and hot. They keep tabs on what you get.
Watch them grab some freshly ground beef with no fillers.
Your burger is made right in front of you.
Then have it all plopped down in front of you still sizzling hot on a slice of wax paper.
Or you can get a big bag full too.
Mmm.
but sometimes you just have to have one, well two of...
Nick's Hamburgers, in business since 1929! YUM!
Nicks is great.
You come in, grab a stool, they take your order.
Most times they never write it down, they remember what you ordered from memory.
You order as you go, to keep 'em coming to you fresh and hot. They keep tabs on what you get.
Watch them grab some freshly ground beef with no fillers.
Your burger is made right in front of you.
Then have it all plopped down in front of you still sizzling hot on a slice of wax paper.
Or you can get a big bag full too.
Mmm.
Cazzie
SOH-CM-2024
Well, as a kid, hamburger. Now, steak. I get 95% lean hamburger, but I only use ground meat in spaghetti, chili, tacos, pelmini, etc. Only my oldest son eats hamburger. My body will not handle the grease in even a lean meat hamburger. I prefere chicken, pork, and fish to beef anyhow.
Caz
Caz
I like steak, but I LOVE a good burger made from ground sirloin, with a nice slice of onion, some mustard, a slice of garden ripe tomato.
The best burger I have ever had, surprisingly, was not made with beef. Ground chicken breast with diced onion, fresh coarse ground black pepper, a pinch of garlic, finely diced red and green pepper, and egg all mixed up meat loaf style...but fried in a bit of olive oil. Juicey, tender, and the flavor was out of this world. On a fresh whole wheat bun with some horseradish sauce and a thick slice of hot pepper cheese.
I'm hungry....got to go grab some supper. Extra thick skillet chili.
OBIO
The best burger I have ever had, surprisingly, was not made with beef. Ground chicken breast with diced onion, fresh coarse ground black pepper, a pinch of garlic, finely diced red and green pepper, and egg all mixed up meat loaf style...but fried in a bit of olive oil. Juicey, tender, and the flavor was out of this world. On a fresh whole wheat bun with some horseradish sauce and a thick slice of hot pepper cheese.
I'm hungry....got to go grab some supper. Extra thick skillet chili.
OBIO
TeaSea
SOH-CM-2014
Depends....
I'd rather have a good hamburger than a mediocre steak.
And I'd rather have a good steak than a mediocre hamburger.
And as for what's in Hamburgers.....when I was in Ranger school we broke open the chicken bones and sucked out the marrow. We chewed the gristle until it came apart. We actually ate beets, and drank the juice (really, who actually eats beets) We sprinkled the sugar packets that came in the MRE's into the toilet tissue, and ate it....
I guess at a certain point, you don't care what's in hamburger.
I'd rather have a good hamburger than a mediocre steak.
And I'd rather have a good steak than a mediocre hamburger.
And as for what's in Hamburgers.....when I was in Ranger school we broke open the chicken bones and sucked out the marrow. We chewed the gristle until it came apart. We actually ate beets, and drank the juice (really, who actually eats beets) We sprinkled the sugar packets that came in the MRE's into the toilet tissue, and ate it....
I guess at a certain point, you don't care what's in hamburger.
Moparmike
Administrator
Nickburgers!...I had forgot all about that place.
Haven't eaten there since back in the 90s when a few friends were going to school down there, but YES that was a neat place to go for a burger pigout.
About the next best thing (and my only local option) is one of many small town bars around here that also have a grill hiding out back sizzling up homestyle burgers.
The best diner-style burger I ever had on the road was at Ed Debevic's in Chicago. Wasn't so much the burger as it was the old-time environment!
Back to Bill's original question...
Beef! As long as it's beef! I grew up on a cattle ranch and that's what paid the bills. I still help the folks out when I can and every year we've got at least one animal that is destined for the freezer. I haven't bought any beef from a grocery store in years and I dread the day that I have to start. An older cow will wind up in the grinder but the steaks & roasts come from a young critter.
Steaks, roasts, ground, soup bones & stew meat, it doesn't matter to me. I like it all. I prefer my ground as lean as possible...Ours usually winds up grading out to 85% lean or better. The rest of the trimmings? Our dogs eat well too.
My favorite is a nice thick ribeye (untrimmed before grilling thank you!) grilled medium. But a good pot of Hamburger Helper style hotdish is a lot easier to throw in the lunch box for work.